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Speaker 1 00:00:17 Hi, and welcome to the Cosmic Circle, the Friendly Neighborhood Companion podcast to the cosmic circus.com, your source for news and reviews about everything from science fiction, fantasy, and comic book tomorrow. I'm Ala Ruby, and today we have an awesome episode about the New Guardians of the the Galaxy Movie. Um, and we have some fantastic people on it. I'm joined by, uh, my two friends, Brian and Anthony. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 00:00:41 Hey everybody, it's Brian. I'm excited to be here, um, and talk about this fantastic movie.
Speaker 3 00:00:48 Hey, it's Anthony. I wish I was rewatching the movie right now. <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:00:54 Uh, sorry, sorry. Red <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:00:58 I'm waiting for Tuesday. You know, discount day.
Speaker 2 00:01:01 Oh, good call. Gotta get that second week, uh, numbers up too. You know, gotta support the film as, as it's in theaters, which everybody should go do.
Speaker 1 00:01:10 So I've only seen it once. I saw it today, this morning at like 10 o'clock in the morning. And I was really surprised the theater was, I mean, not surprised, but like the theater was totally packed and it was weird. 'cause I'm not used to going to movies with like a full house anymore except for Super Mario Brothers. Um
Speaker 3 00:01:25 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Speaker 2 00:01:26 Which it was, was was a treat.
Speaker 1 00:01:29 Yes. Um, Brian, you saw it twice, right?
Speaker 2 00:01:32 I have seen it twice. I saw it on Thursday when it opened and I went last night as well. I was supposed to go see it today, but we're postponing it to Mother's Day for my third viewing, possibly fourth viewing.
Speaker 1 00:01:43 Oh, well I think that is a great place to kind of jump into. Um, like your guys' overall impressions of it. What did you think, um, did you like it or did you hate it so much that you had to watch it, you know, multiple times or what,
Speaker 2 00:01:59 Before I jump into my answer, just quickly, spoiler alert to everybody who's listening, in case you didn't know. 'cause this is the review of Gardens of the Galaxy Volume Three. Um, as I kind of stated, I thought it was a fantastic movie. I thought it was exactly, um, it was what I didn't know that I wanted it, but it was everything I needed. And as I had said earlier, having been in our world, we kind of know what's coming in these films. Um, and seeing it play out was even better than I expected. It hit all the emotional notes I needed. It hit all the, the funny parts. It was a little less funny than some of the past ones 'cause it was a little more serious in tone. Um, but I super enjoyed it. I think that it was probably the best one of the trilogy, which is maybe gonna anger some people <laugh> and I'm sorry for that, but I think that it ended the, the trilogy on a really high note. So I can't beat that.
Speaker 3 00:02:54 No, my Brian pretty much took all the words I was gonna say in my mouth, so I'll second that. I really enjoyed it. I just wish, like I said, I I could re-watch it already. There's, I, there were so many little things I wish I could have had time to pay attention to, but it was like a feast the whole time that I was happy that even if I was not noticing some things directly, you know, like that sequence at the end with, uh, no, Brooklyn still is running in my head.
Speaker 1 00:03:21 And I, I'm so curious 'cause I know we're gonna talk about the soundtrack later and I know you're gonna have a lot of things to say about that, so I love that that was one of the things that you mentioned. Um, yeah, I agree with you guys. I really, really enjoyed it. I thought it was such a strong end to, um, to the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy. They, they really stuck that, um, and it just actually as I was watching it, I was thinking this could actually just be the end of the M C U and I would just be very happy. Like I would, I, if, if this was the end of, of the whole M C U, I would just, I would be okay because they did it so well. And I I, that's probably gonna be a little controversial, um, there,
Speaker 2 00:03:56 I was gonna say Bite your tongue, <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:03:58 No, I, I know it is not, but I'm just like, it just was a very satisfying movie. Um, and you know, with that said, it felt a little bit long in some parts for me. I was like checking my watch and I know it had a really long run time, but I really just, I loved it. Um, and I don't know, I don't know what to, where to go next with it. Do you guys think it met your expectations?
Speaker 2 00:04:20 What's interesting about what you said is I think that it did feel very, like, it had like a sense of finality to mm-hmm. <affirmative> what we got. Um, which I wasn't necessarily expecting, even though I knew it was coming for like these characters. But it did feel like it was kinda like the epilogue of what was endgame. Mm-hmm. I feel like it was the first movie we really have had that's connected to endgame in, in a bigger way. You know, we've had a lot of the offshoots of like, what happened. I know like in Wand Vission, we saw everybody come back, you know, and um, and we saw it in Spider-Man with the being displaced and stuff like this felt like it picked up a single thread of the Gamora storyline of endgame. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and of the Peter Quill and Nebula, um, and Rocket, you know, red W and Rocket surviving through the, the blip. And Peter coming back and having the Gamora, um, problem as we'll say it not being able to be with the one that he loved. It felt like it had all of these threads that were picked up and carried on in a very, um, natural way without feeling forced. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:05:30 And so it did,
Speaker 2 00:05:32 Go
Speaker 1 00:05:32 Ahead. No, you go ahead. It's cool.
Speaker 2 00:05:34 I was gonna say, I just think that like, it, it, it felt like the, the epilogue to that story, which it's weird 'cause we're that's in phase five, you know, we went through a whole phase without having that epilogue for these characters.
Speaker 1 00:05:47 Yeah. It feels like a lot of the other like phase five movies don't really address like Thanos and don't really address. I know, you know, spidey, Dr. Strange, I guess do, but like it emotionally there, there wasn't that resolution. I feel like we got that here. I feel like we got, um, some closure with Gaura or the New Gaura. I don't know if we're calling her new Gaura or what. And Peter and I, I feel like for him too, like he, he started to understand and he, he maybe, um, like became ready to enter the next phase of his life, um, post her,
Speaker 2 00:06:25 You know. Um, I will say that it felt, you know, while we talked about like this being the epilogue of, of, of, of that story, it felt very disjointed from the ones that we got in, um, Thor four. And like, I almost feel like I want to forget for Thor happened just to love and thunder just because, I mean, did did, did it feel weird to anyone else? Like it just did not feel like they were the same team that we saw in that field?
Speaker 3 00:06:51 Not at all. No. It felt very odd. You can tell. That's why I was like getting back to Guardians three. I'm like, this, this is the group I like, they not remotely close or did I care about them in, in that movie.
Speaker 1 00:07:04 There wasn't a real sense of joy. Um, I like underlying their performances almost. And that's really weird to say, but I feel like there was like almost this undercurrent of joy with that came through on the screen, um, and in the performance. And I don't think that was the case in Thor or even in, um, even an end game. Like, it was all very, very serious despite the jokes. And this was just kind of mm-hmm. <affirmative> like friends having fun and making a movie. Um, and I think that matters a lot actually. And I, I actually have a question for you guys about that because you, Brian, you mentioned Thor four. Um, do we think like Drex should just be, you know, inserted there as, as you know, the dad of everyone? 'cause this movie gave us Drex, the dad sort of, I
Speaker 2 00:07:51 Don't should be inserted where like, in in
Speaker 1 00:07:54 Yeah. It Dr. Drags the dad as, as like, just pretend he was the main character of Thor four. I don't know. I don't know if that makes sense. Moving on anyway,
Speaker 2 00:08:04 <laugh>. No, I was gonna Sayt. Yeah, I was gonna say that, um, I know that like Dave Patista has mentioned wanting to be done with this mm-hmm. <affirmative> and a lot of people were expecting him to die. In fact, many of the rumors that went out were gonna were of him dying and he didn't die. And I, I think that was like, while I knew it was coming, it was also very unexpected because like, this man wants out of this rule so bad. Part of me thinking, is he actually done? And I guess I wanna throw that to the two of you. Is he done or is there a future with him in the M C U? 'cause I'm thinking it's the latter.
Speaker 3 00:08:38 Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's definitely the latter. Just for what and when and where. I couldn't tell you, but Secret Wars, I mean that's the safe bet you can say everybody showing up at Secret Wars.
Speaker 1 00:08:51 Yeah. I don't think anyone has ever truly done. Um, and as we've seen, even if their character is killed with like with Gamora, you know, you might be back. Um, I think that although Batista is done for now, you know, I'm sure if, if there's the right story or the right, um, right moment in the future, maybe even the right paycheck in the future, he would come back. Um, and I think it's similar to what we've seen with, um, Chris Evans, right. And Captain America. Because, you know, the, the thing that was said was, he is done, he's not gonna come back. But wasn't, it didn't recently say that. Like if there's the right story or something like that mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, he would consider it. And I think that's, I I I wanna think all actors are kind of open to that realistically.
Speaker 2 00:09:36 I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 00:09:38 You can't turn down
Speaker 2 00:09:39 The money
Speaker 1 00:09:40 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's hard to, it's hard to do that too. Um, so do you guys have, what are your favorite, favorite moments of, of this movie? Anthony,
Speaker 2 00:09:51 I'm let you go first. I wanna know Anthony's favorite parts. 'cause I feel like he has so many and I just need to know what they are.
Speaker 3 00:09:58 I mean, one thing I really enjoyed throughout was Cosmo and Crackling with the Good Dog and Bad Dog joke throughout the whole movie. 'cause I was like, they're gonna wait till like some really cool moment to tell her good dog. And of course they sure do. Um, and then what I found was probably the funniest, the one that made me laugh the most in the movie was when, uh, mantis and Drax were trying to get past that security guard. And then she uses her powers mm-hmm. To have him have uncontrollable love for Drax. And as they pass the, the guard Drax goes, you do that every time and Mantis is just giggling away as she's walking away from it. So I, I really enjoyed those two, just knowing that they have those in jokes between 'em, like the constant doing that. And um, and then Gamora relearning, um, groups language.
Speaker 3 00:10:46 That was, that was pretty awesome throughout. And at the very end, she let her guard down enough and crew even caught up and kind of like was smugged towards her. And, and as I was mentioning in the very beginning, of course, the fight scene with no Sleep till Brooklyn, I was like, the one thing I have to see is rocket climbing on groups shoulder and shooting a gun and a 360 shot. And then it happened like about <laugh> 15 or 30 seconds later as I was thinking about it, I'm like, I just need one. And then, you know, guns blazing <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:11:16 That was such a great moment. That whole flight scene was very reminiscent to me of like a lighthearted version of the hallway scenes from Dan. Yep. Like the, the, the, the one shot at the very end my nephew asked, he is like, is that one shot? And I was like, I don't know. But it looked like it was, and that's all I needed from that. Mm-hmm. <laugh>, that bite was top notch. Um, I was actually, I'm gonna agree with you, Anthony. The one scene where Gamora figures it out, it was actually one of the scenes I really like cried at was because I like in that moment she partially embraces it. And yes, we do see her kind of turn away, but there's also the moment she like turns, you know, she doesn't turn to Peter, but she says, I bet we were fun. Like, that was followed up. You know, first it was the group scene, which was like, oh, you understand him, you're in on the family now. And then she had that moment of like, almost wanting it, but then like, not letting herself have it, which I think is very, um, even though she said that she's also done with the part when she comes back. 'cause I think she is too, um, we're gonna have some resolution to that 'cause that's not over either. And in any aspect, there's no way that she doesn't join this family again. Um, it
Speaker 3 00:12:27 Was one of my favorite romances in the mcu, so I hope it, it happens, you know? And if it doesn't that's okay. At least it happened. But like, I hope, I hope they're find, they find a way to reunite 'cause like, come on. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Speaker 2 00:12:38 It's too perfect.
Speaker 1 00:12:40 What do you think about, you know, the, the kind of hinted or teased Nebula, um, Nebula and Star Lord Romance is kind of the next, the next generation of it all? No, it doesn't work. No.
Speaker 3 00:12:54 I mean, I thought it was funny how they had that little scene, but I think it was just play for humor at least. I hope so.
Speaker 2 00:13:01 So I don't know if anyone else picked up on it, but first off, I, I just wanna say real quick, one of the best scenes of that entire film was when, uh, they use their F-bomb did to get into like, when they're having did to get, when nobody's trying to get in the car. I've watched that scene probably 10 times last night when I got home. 'cause it is just so funny. And this is the perfect example of when to use the F-bomb. Um, so I just wanna say that real quick, but I got this sense that they were pushing Dr. And Nebula together. Like as the film progressed, there was this sense of like, they had a better camaraderie. And I actually felt like the, the, even though he was kind of, he loves Mantis, you can kind of feel that love for them that she, when she was leaving, there was the two of them to pull up these maternal paternal roles and we're kind of coming together in a new way. And I thought, oh, is this the hint of some relationship here that I didn't see coming? 'cause I thought it was gonna be Peter and Nebula, but then at the end it kind of threw the curve ball with the drag scene. And I was like, oh, that's kind of where I'm feeling. I don't know if anybody else picked up on that though.
Speaker 1 00:14:04 Yeah. And I think so much of that too is from Batista's performance because even though he's, you know, covered in, in makeup and prosthetics and all of that, like he manages to convey, um, like when, when Mantis is walking away, you get that sense of loss. Like, you, you, your heart breaks for him and mm-hmm. Like, that's just, that was so very powerful. And I also, there's another moment I think, uh, Roddy mentioned it too, where, um, you know, where the two of them are trying to get into like the rest of the Organic Security station. Um, and there's that moment with the Guard and Batista, like there's just a moment in performance where like he physically slumps and makes himself small. And it's just so, like, again, it's a testament to how good of an actor he is. And I think it's sort of like, you don't think Dave Batista would be a great actor, you know, wrestling and all of that. But I think it's just kind of, he had a lot of, um, opportunity in this film to show that yeah, he actually has some range and can do some cool stuff.
Speaker 2 00:15:03 You know, it's interesting you say that because I've always been under the impression that like, wrestlers don't always translate to really good actors and I'm about to piss off people. I'm so sorry. <laugh>. I don't think the Rock's a good actor. I also don't,
Speaker 1 00:15:17 I think most people would agree with that. I wanna think, unless he's Maui this, which I have to like, we're, we're gonna have talk about <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:15:25 But I think people are gonna be pissed off about this one. Mostly. I don't think John Cena's a good actor. I
Speaker 3 00:15:29 Knew he was gonna say it. All right, I'm out. I'm logging out. Y Goodnight.
Speaker 2 00:15:33 Other than peacemaker other than Peacemaker named one film of his that is good.
Speaker 1 00:15:37 It doesn't have to be a film. Total Ballas. He, he played his role like to perfection on Total Ballas and on, um, the precursor to Total Bella is the other WWE e reality show.
Speaker 2 00:15:52 You lost me there. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:15:53 Okay. So, so John Cena, you know, was was with Nikki Bella, I think, or Yes, Nikki Bella in in the wrestling world and, and in real life. And they had a reality show. Um, and Nikki Bella was on Total Divas. I'm, I'm like, I'm a wrestling person, I'm sorry. And John Cena would occasionally make appearances. And if you think reality TV is acting, he, he did his performance on Total Bellas and Total Divas very well. So that, that's all I have to say about that. And
Speaker 2 00:16:22 With that Guardians Stop <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:16:24 Sorry. Well, we, this is not a wrestling podcast,
Speaker 2 00:16:28 But I think that Dave Batista does have a lot of acting chops. I think he's probably one of the better actors that we have out there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And this movie sold me on that. I mean, I loved him in Glass Onion, but like this film, I was like, oh my God. Like he was, he was like stabbing me in the heart with some of his scenes. Yeah. And even though he was playing this very autistic character, um, he shows that like individuals who have autism are also capable of making these connections, which I think sometimes is a very common trope that people forget about, is that like, these individuals have deep connections with people
Speaker 1 00:17:03 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>
Speaker 2 00:17:04 With people and he sold me on it. He sold me on it.
Speaker 1 00:17:07 It makes you a little bit sad that if, if he's done with it for a while, because, you know, it kind of feels like we're just getting started a little bit with Drax and there could be some really interesting things down the line for him.
Speaker 2 00:17:20 A hundred percent.
Speaker 1 00:17:21 Um, so we, we talked about favorite moments. What are your guys, what, what didn't you like, what kind of bothered you about this film, if anything?
Speaker 3 00:17:31 The only thing I had off the top of my head is I didn't, I understand that it was a scheduling issue that they weren't able to get the original composer, I believe Tyler Bates. So they got someone else. So, eh, I just don't like how in the last two movies when the Guardian's theme, you know, plays, it's always a really cool moment and it's very triumphant this time. It didn't feel as pomp and circumstance as it should. It was like, oh, they, they played it, but it wasn't like no goosebumps were forming or I didn't feel inspired. It was just like, it was cool. 'cause like, I want to say it was used when Adam Warlock was attacking, um, them when they were on Counter Earth, I wanna say. And the second time, I believe is when Rocket says his name is Rocket Raccoon. Yes. I wanna say that's the only two times I heard the Guardians theme. And I'm like, I mean, that's cool, but like part of the thing was using the theme when you had the whole group mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they didn't really ever do that. Like, if I recall a hundred percent, it wasn't like, okay, you could see everybody and we're playing the Guardians theme like we did in the last couple movies this time. It Okay.
Speaker 1 00:18:40 It's funny you say that because I can't recall like, hearing the Guardians theme at all in this movie. And, you know, normally I could Yeah. Um, like there was no goosebumps moment, like you said. So Yeah. It's something to think about.
Speaker 2 00:18:53 Yeah. There, there was the one time that you're talking about, the first time I heard it was literally like the shortest like, call towards it, like a hint. And then it was gone and I was like mm-hmm. <affirmative> that you could have had that for the entire scene. Mm-hmm. And we would've been all been a mess. You know what I mean? So I do feel like that was very, very obvious about that. Um, as for what I didn't like, and this might be nitpicking, but I felt that there was like a lot of body horror without a, like, a lot of warning about the body horror specifically. Like
Speaker 3 00:19:25 Yeah. There was like a
Speaker 2 00:19:26 Monkey. Yeah. Well the monkey that was ripping off the girl's face to at the end when it's she's the, they're trying to get the animals off
Speaker 3 00:19:35 On the Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I remember she talking about, I was, that felt really weird. Like, man, that thing is really aggressive. I was like, did they wanna bring in all these animals to this? Like, and with the kids of all things felt, felt kinda dumb, but like, okay.
Speaker 1 00:19:51 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:19:51 So I was, I wasn't expecting things like that. And there was a few scenes and like you said with the high evolutionary that I was like, oh, I wasn't expecting this for like a Marvel movie.
Speaker 1 00:20:01 I wasn't expecting his face. Um, like to be that rocked, I guess
Speaker 3 00:20:07 I didn't know what I expected, but I knew that they had scratched it up. But man, when he peeled that back, I'm like, wow, Rocky got him good
Speaker 1 00:20:14 And compliments to the like, to the special effects artist and the makeup artist and all that. 'cause holy crap, that looked really realistic and creepy.
Speaker 3 00:20:23 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:25 Um, you know, I don't know if, my God, is it PG 13 with that? I don't know. I can see that as being the subject of some nightmares, but that's a different discussion. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> <laugh>. Um, so I found, because I know you guys have mentioned yours, I found the whole organic Space station really weird, um, is just like, I don't know, like something that very visceral and, and bothersome about it. Like when they were cutting into the, the Skin of the Space Station mm-hmm. And there's like hair and stuff just that freaked me out. So that was like my least favorite part of it, which isn't, which is just like a set piece. Again, compliments to the, like the makeup people, the S f X people. 'cause like they did a really good job for that to be so, uh, freaky
Speaker 3 00:21:11 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:21:12 Um, but yeah. So anything else about like least favorite things or any other general comments that you guys kind of,
Speaker 3 00:21:23 Uh, I wish we could've got a little bit more time with the high Evolutionary and, um, for as awesome as Adam Morlock is, I actually wasn't that impressed with, with his intro 'cause like really, I know you'd think, oh me of all people would really like that 'cause they put on crazy on you and then they just, I don't know, it was just like abrupt. It was fine, but I was just like, oh, okay, we're just throwing Adam Morelock in here and he is flying and then he shows up. It was just fine.
Speaker 1 00:21:53 Were you expecting it when he, you know, I guess rocketed in, um, you know, to nowhere where you kind of, did you know that that okay.
Speaker 3 00:22:05 Completely forgot about it. Just like, all of a sudden I'm like, wait, what happened? I was like, just confused and then I was like crazy on you. And then this dude shows up. I'm like, well, I guess that's an appropriate song choice. I don't know for what he's about to do.
Speaker 2 00:22:20 It felt like the be, I don't know what it was, but there was something about the, the beginning that felt so rushed. I feel like we were like, I feel like a lot of movies like ease you into the story. And this one went from like, we saw the flash back to part of Rocket and then it was like him walking through nowhere. Peter was drunk and then like, but there wasn't like a lot of dialogue or anything. It was like, just like boom, boom, boom. And then within, oh, Adam Warlock shows up, destroys everything, and all of a sudden we're going off to save Rock. It just felt like, I was like, whoa, whoa. We like buy me dinner first, dude. Like, you know, it was just very quick.
Speaker 1 00:22:59 In some ways I feel like the holiday special that you hadn't seen, that you might not have had the same, um, I guess appreciation for what Nowhere was and the new nowhere because I think, you know, having, having that extra time there really was helpful. Um, and we didn't get it in this movie, you know, we just kind of were, were pretty quick off to the, the destruction of the beautiful like, fallout like world. Um, and I'll, I'll never not see that and think Megaton. So that's, that's my own personal issue. But yeah. Um, do you think, you know, Reddi mentioned high evolutionary. Do you think that, was he a good villain? Was he, um,
Speaker 3 00:23:43 Yeah, easily best surveillance and standoffs, he was actually terrifying in every aspect of the way. Oh yes. I mean, he managed, he managed to make Gravity bend around him. The dude had the, the, what's it called, the ambition to make himself a God. I mean, that's scary just from a mental, you know, aspect. And then what got me was the abuse he was doing on Rocket. Like, you know, making them all happy and then all of a sudden like, huh, you really think you're gonna be a part of this world? Like just utilizing it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the pure offense he took from Rocket being smarter than him 'cause mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he didn't, he didn't say it, but he sure did relay it to the animal that he is like, how did you, you you little thing that I made know something that I didn't, 'cause I mean, you could tell he was not happy that Rocket figured it out and the way Rocket figured out was just so like, huh, look, you know, you just need to turn it this way and, and it'll work. Like it was just so off the cuff for him. And, and even afterwards, like, he's had Rocket gone for years, he's making this new and how many times did he repeat the same thing? He is like, these little girls can solve this equation in two minutes, but they can't do anything that's just memorization. So yeah, he's, uh, he's scary for sure.
Speaker 2 00:24:55 I think he was the villain that I wanted King to be. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like, I, as much as I liked and the Watts looking back, I was like, oh, this is actually what I wanted. I wanted a villain who actually gave me chills. And there was not a single scene with the high evolutionary that didn't even have chills. Even when the one scene that threw me off guard that gave me chills was when he's sitting there with Rocket and Rockets solving the equation and they're like, he's sitting and, you know, uh, cross lagged on the floor and he is looking out at counter Earth. And like, the whole delivery was just like giving me chills. It was just very like oozy like, oh, this, there's just something wrong about this person. Even though at that point, like we only got hints of how bad he was.
Speaker 2 00:25:35 And I think it's something Anthony that you pointed out too in one of our chats is that he didn't hold back in any way. Like some of the other, you know, villains that he like made those monsters and they were hetero age. So we just killed, he incinerated them and watched them burn and had Rocket watched them burn and what he did to Layla. And like he got rid of her arms to give her mechanical arms. And like, there was just no, there was like no rest for him. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he just was, his pursuit was so diabolical that I was like, oh God, this is fantastic. In fact, if we're gonna replace King, if should a hundred percent replace King, 'cause I feel like he's going, he could kill it.
Speaker 3 00:26:19 It was just so nonchalant how he's like, well this is a mistake. And then pulled the ship out of counter Earth knowing it was gonna destroy it. Yeah. It didn't even phase him a little bit. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:26:28 Just casual destruction of so many lives. And like you mentioned, like with the incinerating all taking
Speaker 3 00:26:33 Bread outta the grocery store.
Speaker 1 00:26:34 Exactly. Yeah. It was so meaningless to him. Um, and I thought he Yeah, I agree with you completely that he gave me chills. He, and the performance just was so incredible. And I think there's this one line or this one like sequence of lines that's I think gonna stick with people and somebody is saying something about God and he is like, God wasn't there. So I stepped in mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Oh my God. And like,
Speaker 2 00:26:59 That was good.
Speaker 1 00:27:00 That was incredible. Um, I think it really speaks to what, like, how, how horrible he is, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And we don't know why, we don't know why he's in this pursuit of perfection, uh, perfection. Which could be kind of interesting to learn later. Um, or did I miss it? Um, but I don't, I don't think we know why, why he just wants
Speaker 2 00:27:21 No, these perfect. I don't think they ever tell you why.
Speaker 1 00:27:23 And I think it still works even though we don't know his motivations. Right. Um,
Speaker 2 00:27:29 I actually almost liked not getting the explanation. Mm-hmm. 'cause I feel like in sometimes with these films, if you get too much of an explanation, I, I think back to like the last episode of Loki, which I loved Loki, but like when he who remains this like monologuing and stuff like that, I feel like it's almost you're like trying to like sympathize with him. And I think it was better for the high evolutionary to not sympathize with him. Yeah. He wasn't a great person. There was no way to really humanize that at all. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 00:27:56 And we don't need eight movies to see that he's not great. We get like right off the bat, like, holy crap, this guy is really scary. He's a bad dude. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:09 And there's also another line he says too that just, it stuck with me over the first time after I saw it the second time, I just couldn't stop thinking about it. Where he wants Rocket so bad. And first off, he won't call Rocket Rocket even though everybody else does. You know, he won't even call it Raccoon. It is his subject number. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But when, um, star Lord jumps out of the window with his helper and then group does, and he's just like, what a waste. Like, and it's just like so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, he could not care less in any way. And for some reason that really stuck with me. I was like, this man only cares about what he wants. And we saw him later when he's like, thinks he's losing all and they're like, his people are like, we should abandon this. And he's like, no, we're not abandoning it. He kind of goes a little crazy. Um, but everywhere else he's just so calm and collected and I think that's what King wanted to be. And it wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1 00:29:00 He's so driven, right? He's in such mm-hmm. In, in pursuit of this singular thing. And he didn't die at the end. And that was very interesting to me. Uh, you know, his ship was destroyed, but mm-hmm. We didn't, we didn't see his body get, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> wrecked. So I think that leaves open the door. I don't know what you guys think. Sure.
Speaker 2 00:29:21 Oh, I don't, I I have this rule in my head ever since, um, John Barrowman played Malcolm Merlin an arrow, and he said, you can't kill a good, bad guy, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:29:32 And I think back to that all the time because I think it's true that when you have a good, bad guy, he does come back in some form or the effects are still there and you still have the psychological damage. I do not think he has done. And I think it'll be interesting now that Rocket is leading the guardians to have him come back with the hi his second counter Earth or with Mount Wonder Gore, because that's where he is in the comic books. That's where his, um, his mountain is. And bringing that dark magic, the chaos magic may be into it and having, you know, he was actually part of the creation of, uh, Wanda and, uh, Pietro in the comic books and stuff. So, so, so tying back to some of that, um, I think would be very interesting. I think he's coming back and I, he should come back because I think he may be the best, my favorite villain out of all them. And I kind of wanna know too, 'cause Red said it's the best one since, um, Thanos, but like, where does he rank overall? So like, part of the question there.
Speaker 1 00:30:33 That's a great question.
Speaker 2 00:30:36 I think Thanos, they try to sympathize him too much. They try to make people see that, like his motivation was right. And so a lot of people sympathize with him. I don't, I mean, even in, in world Thanos was Right, right. Some people believe that. And I have people who've seen the films and they're like, well, Thanos isn't wrong. And so to me, like it's good to have a sympathetic villain, but like to have one that's just a villain for no other reason. You know, like a Freddy Krueger, you don't have to know that he's a good person 'cause he's not,
Speaker 3 00:31:07 No high evolutionary probably would take the cake. I mean, he's pure evil. He has no problem destroying his own creations and his own people essentially. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, you know, the mental abuse that he puts out is, is pretty wicked towards his own subjects and people that work for him. And also he's making, or he's running that backup company illegally to get around regulations. So,
Speaker 1 00:31:32 But
Speaker 3 00:31:32 It was all in all, he's a bad dude.
Speaker 1 00:31:34 The fact that they, me mentioned, what was it, intergalactic law was kind of funny considering, you know, his abilities and, and what was it, intergalactic patents, um, was kind of, was kind of funny and amusing. Um, do you guys think that what he had, his powers were magic? Or were they tech? Like how, oh, was that clear to you?
Speaker 3 00:31:56 I thought it was tech. I mean, it's essentially engineering. 'cause you could tell the dude was really good at creating things. But, um,
Speaker 2 00:32:08 So I wonder though if it's something along the lines of what Thor said years ago about like, all magic is just advanced tech, you know? And like, I wonder if something like that, like it does, it's just so advanced that he's his, maybe one of his goals was to perfect the world, to perfect himself so he could have power so he could be perfected so he could live forever. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Because it seemed like there was a little bit of fear, like there was vanity, you know, with the face. And there was the fear of of not carrying on something. Um, which, you know, according to evolutionary psychology, immortality is just passing on our legacy or our genetics in a way. And that's all we're trying to pursue here. So for him, he was doing genetic legacy here through his creatures. So I don't, I wanna say tech too. I'm sorry, that was a long answer for that. I wanna say it's tech.
Speaker 3 00:33:01 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:33:01 What do you think Aila?
Speaker 1 00:33:03 I mean, I wanna, I wanna think it's tech and I just want to, I think because he, like he is seems to be a very obviously advanced being, he's been around for many, many thousands of years, right? There's this moment where he's talking about music with Rocket and he's got a recording that's like 5,000 years old. So either he that, like that was raised from some other civilization or he, um, from wherever place he came, wherever civilization he came, may, that was maybe something from like, from his people. So I wanna say it's just tech that we think is magic because it's so advanced.
Speaker 3 00:33:39 For all we know, he could have predicted cloning and is cloning himself.
Speaker 1 00:33:43 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:33:45 I mean, he was doing bioengineering. How could he not just grab a sample of himself and make more, or who knows?
Speaker 2 00:33:51 Or is he a king variant? I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 00:33:54 I'd imagine if they play that back
Speaker 1 00:33:58 New theory, article soon to drop.
Speaker 3 00:34:02 Not me.
Speaker 2 00:34:03 Give me two hours. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:34:06 <laugh>. All right. So, you know, we, we've talked about the high evolutionary. Now what do you think about his creations? Because we've seen a lot of them in this movie. We saw, we saw a rocket in his origin story, obviously. And then we saw Counter Earth, which for all of us kind of, um, is special in some ways because I know you guys spent so much time decoding, um, decoding the language of Counter. Yeah. Which wasn't even in the movie. I like, I was waiting for that, that moment and it wasn't there. And I was mad they took
Speaker 3 00:34:39 It out.
Speaker 2 00:34:40 Wait, but but wait, just, just, there was a few points and I actually looked at this 'cause when I was, uh, on Saturday when I was with uh, uh, my person, um, and we were watching it and I leaned over and I was like, I helped the coat on Mat. So there is the can of Soda that they have. Oh,
Speaker 1 00:34:57 The Delicious Table soda. The table, right? Yes. The Nebula. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:35:01 And one of our exclusives was featured a wall, and that wall was in there. 'cause it was where the Oh yeah. The one animal was being beating up the other. And I was like, I know that wall. I know that wall That is our wall. I
Speaker 3 00:35:13 Stared at it for a while, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:35:15 So there were some points and I was like, I was trying to, to do it. What I'm mad about is that we had the, we had the police truck car that had Counter Earth on it, and that police car was not in that film. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> at all. And I was like, I want that police car. Um, but it was also the car that they drive to the high Evolutionaries place, but without the thing on the side. So I don't know if they erased it because it didn't test well or something, but, um,
Speaker 1 00:35:43 I wonder if they couldn't get clearance for it. 'cause you know, you, I guess you have to pay Buick or something like that, or whatever kind of car it was to, to feature it. And maybe that's not something they were able to do. Sure.
Speaker 3 00:35:55 Well, we're talking about that scene, that drawing from Peter was amazing. Was it not?
Speaker 1 00:35:59 Are you gonna hang it up and frame it?
Speaker 3 00:36:01 I'm gonna frame it in my apartment. Mm-hmm. Just like yours.
Speaker 2 00:36:04 <laugh>. A hundred percent. Um, I wish we saw more of Counter Earth. I think that's my one. That's one other thing that I thought about is that the, you know, the, were they bats family, the back family? I guess I'll say Yes. When he went in there with them, I was like, oh, they're so interesting. And the way they were trying to connect, and it kind of reminded me a little bit of, uh, Michelle, yo, you know. And I was just like, oh, I wanna see more of them. And we didn't get a real good taste of them. And so I feel like if we had a little more time with Counter Earth and the people there, the impact of him just leaving and burning them to incineration would have had a higher, like, oh no. Like it was already bad enough. Like, if we got to know these people a little bit more and we start to, to sympathize with them a little bit more, you would hate him even more <laugh>. And so I did want that. I did want that.
Speaker 1 00:36:49 I felt, so that's my one thing. So, so sad for that bad family. But the dad, the dad knew what was up, whoever the actor was, and I don't know who he was like, communicated so much with his limited, um, you know, limited, limited communication ability there. And I was just, he, he knew what was gonna happen to his family as soon as soon as the aliens showed up. Yeah. The Guardians. Um, all right. So, um, what do we think about Blurp? I think Blurp. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:37:24 Yeah. He is definitely cuter than Morris.
Speaker 2 00:37:29 No, you take that back.
Speaker 3 00:37:32 I knew Brian was gonna get upset if I said that
Speaker 2 00:37:36 Anthony Flagg. I thought we were friends. <laugh>. Me
Speaker 3 00:37:39 Too.
Speaker 2 00:37:41 Oh man. I mean, he was cute. I didn't see, I didn't, he didn't really serve a purpose.
Speaker 1 00:37:48 Oh,
Speaker 2 00:37:50 Look at Kylo. We have a special guest. Everybody, you just can't see him.
Speaker 1 00:37:55 See him. We, we have, uh, Anthony's pup and he is amazing.
Speaker 3 00:38:00 And he wants to get in frame for some reason.
Speaker 1 00:38:03 Aw. Well actually that's a, that brings to a a great question. Um, so what did you guys think of Cosmo and his Cosmo? A good dog or a good dog? And I think Vic asked us this in, in comments, like, because that's the only option.
Speaker 2 00:38:19 I take care of this good dog. I loved Cosmo so much. I think that Cosmo was one of the best additions to the Guardians team. And one of the main reasons why I want number four, it's just so I can get more Cosmo, the, the whole bad dog running joke. It, me and my nephew went the first night and we, we had a, we had a pretty good, um, crowd going and everybody gasped like they had been shot when he said, you're a bad dog. And there was not a person in that film mm-hmm. <laugh> that was not mm-hmm. Angry. And I felt that, and I was like, oh no. How dare you. Like Cosmo is, all dogs are good dogs no matter what. Um, I love Cosmo. I hope that we see more Cosmo. That's it. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3 00:39:11 I love Cosmo. I love that Cosmo is playing cards at the table with everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:39:15 <laugh>. That,
Speaker 3 00:39:16 That was awesome.
Speaker 1 00:39:17 Was it poker? I don't know that, that scene was really good. Um, and we have to see Howard the Duck too there. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 3 00:39:24 And the trader from the first Guardians, the one that was gonna buy the orb.
Speaker 1 00:39:27 Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:39:29 And then as well as, uh, the singer from the old 90 sevens that was in the holiday special, he was, he made a appearance as well. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it was, I'll tell you which, which appearance really surprised the hell outta me was seeing Yondu show up. I did not expect that. Oh
Speaker 2 00:39:44 My.
Speaker 3 00:39:45 I didn't, it
Speaker 2 00:39:46 Did not. I
Speaker 3 00:39:47 Didn't know that it was gonna happen. Yeah. And it was so brief. It was enough. It was just like, here really quick. You miss them, you love 'em, see 'em real quick, and then let's get back to the story. So that made me happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:39:57 You imagine though, those five words, right? And how many hours in, in, you know, makeup to turn blue, but it was so worth it.
Speaker 2 00:40:04 Yeah. But this brings up another point. I guess I, um, I have about it. How did it, I, granted, we don't know if he disappeared during the blip, but between five to 10 years he hadn't, Craig Lynn hadn't learned how to use that arrow yet,
Speaker 3 00:40:18 Right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I wondered about that.
Speaker 1 00:40:21 He had other things going on. Apparently. I don't know what they were and we don't either. Keeping Peter,
Speaker 3 00:40:28 Keeping Peter moving seemed like that was a team effort.
Speaker 1 00:40:34 Do you, so, you know, we we're talking about Sean Gunn a little bit. Who's Craig Lynn? Do you guys, there's been a lot of commentary online, um, about James Gunn using his family, um, from from his brother to his wife, to his friends. What do you guys think about that? Um, like do you think it works in this film or do you think it it's worked over all the Guardians films?
Speaker 3 00:40:56 I think it's worked for his career. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> mean, he's got a good, good group of people he works with. And like, from my understanding is that a lot of the people he works with, he bases on, on referrals. Like, you know, Hey, this person I know said a good thing about you. So that's why mm-hmm. <affirmative> brought onto this said, you know, um, everybody was freaking out about Danielle Milky joining, and they were thinking she was gonna play this, that, and that. She ended up just being, you know, the
Speaker 1 00:41:22 Receptionist, sort of
Speaker 3 00:41:22 Receptionist. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:41:24 The manager or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 00:41:26 Right. So, like, you know, everybody was thinking she was gonna be this huge role, but no, she just showed up, was important for about five minutes and, and moved on. And, you know, he brought in Nathan Fillon, who he's worked with for years over many things. So not too surprising. Hell, he even brought in Pete Davidson, who he had briefly in the suicide squad who died in the very beginning of that movie. So, I mean, I'm fine with it. He, he's gotta have a reason to keep these people coming around and they put in good at, you know, good performances.
Speaker 1 00:41:55 I Ms. Davidson. What, was he in this movie or where
Speaker 3 00:41:58 Was he? He was one of the guards in the high evolutionary room inside of that ship. Oh. But it's like so fast you'd have to be like, looking for him.
Speaker 1 00:42:05 Oh, was he the guy, like under all the prosthetics?
Speaker 3 00:42:09 No, no. He's one of the, just one of the guys that gets shot by Gru and Peter.
Speaker 1 00:42:14 Okay.
Speaker 3 00:42:15 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:42:17 I missed it too twice.
Speaker 3 00:42:19 It's like, like literally blinking. You missed it. You have to be like, looking for him. He's like in the background on the left of high Evolutionary, if you were looking at him. Okay. Like, like back there. You, you wouldn't just see him like out front.
Speaker 1 00:42:32 Do you think Nathan Ian's, um, little storyline was kind of in service of the story? Do you think it was a distraction? Do you have any opinions of it? Like did it help?
Speaker 3 00:42:44 Hmm. Didn't really do much for me, but, you know, a lot of Nathan Fillon fans, they got a couple minutes of him in the M C U and it was pretty funny. I mean, he knows he's good with comedy.
Speaker 2 00:42:56 I en I enjoyed it, but like, did it add anything to the story? No, no. I mean, Nathan Fillon though was Nathan Fillon. He's, yeah, he's great always. But yeah, it felt like they almost needed more time at, uh, uh, orgo Corp. And like, so they were just like trying to find something to fill the time. Was it necessary?
Speaker 1 00:43:18 It was almost like a fun little side quest, um, that like, that sort of became the main story for a bit. Um, but I don't know. I liked, um, I'm disappointed if this is all, we will see him as in the M C U and I kind of like, 'cause I, I could see him as something else. And I know there's been a lot of talk about him being, um, any of the different shows or different movies. So I wasn't expecting this,
Speaker 2 00:43:47 Which in the first guardians he actually cameos on a poster as Simon Williams's. Wonderman. Yeah. And so it's interesting that they went a different way, you know, <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:43:57 Yeah. That's true. Um, okay, so we're almost at time, but we have a couple more things to, you know, to talk about. So Red, this is gonna go to you first. What is your overall favorite song on the soundtrack? Like what,
Speaker 3 00:44:14 What is the reason in the meantime by Spacehog? Okay. The scene when they were, um, in the airlock coming out and landing on the Orgo Corp, it's just something about when they hit into the chorus that was really good. And it's just seeing them all just float side by side was just a really cool shot, really colorful shot, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because people have been complaining about there being like a gray tone to M C U films. But man, that, that, that movie was a visual buffet of graphics effects. So in the meantime yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:49 It was a visual buffet in such a way that Antman wasn't right. Yeah. It, it did weird and, and Colorful i's
Speaker 2 00:44:56 Fired.
Speaker 3 00:44:57 Yeah. Yeah. And then the other one is probably easily the Nose Kto Brooklyn, but I mean, that's a given.
Speaker 2 00:45:05 Okay. Okay. I, those were all great scenes, but the one that really hit me hard was the, uh, the dog days are over mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and I was not expecting that song. And then when it played and I was like, oh, the first note I heard it and I was like, oh no, like we're doing this. And, um, I thought that was a excellent use of that song. And what a way to, to end it. Like, everybody's sad and then everybody starts dancing and then like, everyone's not sad and like, it was great. I love that one.
Speaker 1 00:45:37 I totally agree. I've
Speaker 3 00:45:38 Seen Tracks dance.
Speaker 1 00:45:39 Yes. Finally Big in Full Circle. <laugh> finally Game
Speaker 3 00:45:45 Because he said Guardian's one that he doesn't dance. Right. Something to that effect.
Speaker 1 00:45:49 And did he say Idiots Dance, or was that Nebula? He
Speaker 2 00:45:52 Said, he said, uh, only Idiots dance in this film. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:45:56 Yeah. And he called himself an idiot, didn't he, in this movie. So,
Speaker 1 00:46:01 Um,
Speaker 3 00:46:02 And making the monkey noises is pretty great too.
Speaker 1 00:46:04 The non monkey noises. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2 00:46:07 Is that what a, is that what a monkey sounds like that that was also really funny. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:46:13 You can't help but laugh at it. Right. Um, so, you know, the ending, let's, let's talk about that a little bit. Um, what do you guys, you
Speaker 3 00:46:21 Didn't tell us what your favorite song use was.
Speaker 1 00:46:22 No, I, I totally agree with it. The dog days are over, so I Okay. I figured. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that was wonderful. Um, yeah. And I, I mean, nose Brooklyn is who, who can hate the DC Boys as well, so, yeah. Right.
Speaker 2 00:46:36 Who
Speaker 1 00:46:38 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:46:39 You almost got me there. I almost got Mad
Speaker 1 00:46:42 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:46:43 Aw. And you'll never know if I'm kidding or not. Anyways, what's the next question? <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:46:49 I wonder. No. Um, so the ending, do we think, is this the end for the Guardians? We touched on it a little bit earlier. Um, no. Do you like the new guys, new Guardians?
Speaker 3 00:47:01 I love the new, the new Lineup of the Guardians. I think it's real fun, really funny too. And I can't wait to hear more about what they've been up to and other ntu u cosmic side of things. You know, hearing about what they've just reporting or stuff that background throwaway lines. So it's awesome that they got, as a collective, they've already been working long enough to where they all have opinions on the music, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like that little scene where they're talking so clearly they've been on a couple missions already. So I, I want to hear about what they've been up to.
Speaker 1 00:47:31 Did you notice anything about that scene? Because I think, um, I think one of our, our, our friends in Discord, um, disappointingly lethargic or disappointing, um, butchering the name right now, um, 'cause I'm remember your brain fart, but asked us about Abel and she was in that scene where they're talking about the music while they're waiting to save the planet inhabitants. Um, did you catch that at all?
Speaker 2 00:47:57 Her eye was purple.
Speaker 3 00:47:59 Yeah. She had little like, power ups on her arms too. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, she's definitely made some progress in some way. I can imagine Rocket made her something to like help her channel her powers. 'cause I mean, uh, there's that one point where Nebula says the Gamora, that little thing has made all the upgrades to us, blah, blah, blah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So yeah. No, nice catch. I didn't really think about it too much.
Speaker 1 00:48:22 Um, do we think, so a couple post credit scenes or mid credit scenes, um, let's talk about star Lord. So it said, I think the legendary star Lord will return return.
Speaker 3 00:48:35 Yep.
Speaker 2 00:48:38 I wasn't expecting them to say that, but I was also like, I think it gave a very good indication, like the direction of like, we're not losing these characters. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I don't think anybody in their right mind is actually thinking that we're losing these characters. Um, they're coming back. They have to, they have to. They
Speaker 1 00:48:54 Could pop up anywhere.
Speaker 2 00:48:57 Yeah. Where though is the important question, <laugh>, and I'm working on an article. Um, I can't say, 'cause I am working on an article of where we might find the legendary starboard next.
Speaker 1 00:49:06 Is it the,
Speaker 3 00:49:07 My No, that's interesting that they picked, right. But I thought that they went with the legendary star Lord rather than St. Peter Quill. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and not just that, but normally when they do that, they write it in a regular text in the small font in the middle. This time they did in a huge font across the whole screen. Guardian norm too. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I, that was different because remember Black Panther two, it said Black Panther will return, but it was like black screen with white text, and it was just in the middle, like no big deal. But this one was like bam, like Peter's coming back. Mm-hmm. But they called 'em star Lord. So
Speaker 1 00:49:40 Did you guys catch the newspaper? Um, yes.
Speaker 3 00:49:45 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:49:45 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:49:46 The, the Kevin Bacon shout out to the holiday special. Yes.
Speaker 1 00:49:49 I loved that.
Speaker 2 00:49:52 It, it actually felt good because I was worrying if it was gonna be ignored, you know, for a long chunk of the film. It felt like it was being ignored except for the fact that they mentioned Peter and, um, mantis being related. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, that was
Speaker 1 00:50:05 Really early in the movie too. I thought that was nice. Yes. That they got that
Speaker 2 00:50:09 Yes.
Speaker 3 00:50:09 Outta the way
Speaker 2 00:50:11 It was. And so like when they did that, I was like, oh, that's perfect. Um, I'm totally, I'm taking my mom for Mother's Day and I'm anticipating that the moment she's gonna cry is when he shows back up at the Grand Grandpa's house.
Speaker 3 00:50:22 Oh man.
Speaker 2 00:50:23 Because that's gonna ruin her. And like, I, I love that for her <laugh>. I love that for her. Um, that scene, that scene was perfect. I thought that was the perfect way to, like, if he wasn't coming back, you wouldn't have to have anything else, you know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you could continue doing that. The fact that we're getting him back in, um, I'm very excited. I, but to answer your question, I think it's gonna be Nova if, when, and if Nova shows up, I think he's gonna be the person that's gonna help Nova get from Earth, because I think it's gonna be what Sam Alexander is the kid to space.
Speaker 1 00:50:56 That's a good place where it could be. Um, and I'm curious to see, I hope we'll learn more about Nova, but I know there's a lot of schedules shifting and, and things going on. Um, I, I the moment where I completely lost it was where he, you know, saw his grandfather. Like I hadn't cried the entire movie and then that I couldn't hold it anymore, like at that point. So that was such a powerful scene,
Speaker 2 00:51:21 Such a powerful moment.
Speaker 1 00:51:23 Yes. Okay. Well, um, this has been wonderful guys. Is there, you know, is there anything else that you wanna get off your chest about, um, guardians of the Galaxy before we get back into the real world? Yes. One last thing. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:51:37 It's, uh, I'm really glad that Rocket, you know, exclaimed, his name was Rocket Raccoon. That was, that was a very sweet way to like, finally have him say the full thing. And it was very powerful rather than just like, yeah, I'm Rocky Raccoon, like, you know, I am with this whole chest.
Speaker 1 00:51:53 I wish we had Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 00:51:56 No, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 00:51:57 I wish we had more time to talk about the little raccoons and Lila and Teeths and Floor, because we didn't talk about that at all and they were so important.
Speaker 2 00:52:07 You know, I was, I was actually, when he finally said Rocket Raccoon did, I had this sense, all of a sudden I was like, oh my God, this has been a trilogy of origin stories for Rocket. Like, I don't, like that was in that moment, that's all I thought about. I was like, this was not about the team. This was getting Rocket from the beginning of it to this. Mm-hmm. And now his story is actually beginning. And I feel like that is the main takeaway I had for Guardians three. Um, and I don't, I'm so sad we didn't get to talk about Flo TIFs and Lila because they were probably one of the best parts of that film and they took it to heartstrings the entire time.
Speaker 1 00:52:39 And Lila says that too though. Um, real quick, I wanna mention that Lila says like, it's been about you this entire time, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so, yeah. And we didn't talk about Groot either, now that I'm thinking about it and, and you know,
Speaker 2 00:52:53 We gotta talk about Groot. We can't just leave him out of this
Speaker 1 00:52:55 <laugh>, the, the, the most important guardian. I don't know
Speaker 2 00:53:00 He, when he pulled those guns out of his chest and his back Yep. I thought I was gonna die and go to heaven. I was like, oh my God. Like this character went from an old stoic tree to a baby,
Speaker 1 00:53:17 To a bratty teenager,
Speaker 2 00:53:19 To a brandy teenager. To a badass. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:53:22 <affirmative>. Like he's got the hang the hang and then's super sw. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:53:27 Super swol. He got that from Thor, let's be honest here. He spent too much time with Thor and he is like, I need a body like that.
Speaker 3 00:53:32 You, you know what? Now you mentioned it. He probably did work out with him a little bit at some point, so Yeah. He probably learned his regimen
Speaker 1 00:53:38 The same training. Training,
Speaker 3 00:53:39 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Todd level training literal
Speaker 1 00:53:42 At the end of the movie, we hear group speak in English as the audience. Um, what do you, what is your takeaway from that? James
Speaker 3 00:53:51 Gunn confirmed something about that today.
Speaker 2 00:53:52 Yes. I was just gonna see it. Oh, you took it from me
Speaker 3 00:53:54 Because I saw the article an hour after it his posted, it's on I oh nine. And it was about the fact that after all these years we're in on the joke and we can finally understand Gru Gru did not change the way he spoke. He did say, I am Gru, but now that we're part of the family mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we heard it as I love you guys. And I thought that was amazing. And he retweeted and said, yes, this is indeed the case. So I am Gru. And
Speaker 1 00:54:19 I am Gru. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:54:21 Um, yeah, no, I, as soon as that happened, I did not think of that. But when I read it from James Gunn, I was like, that's exactly
Speaker 3 00:54:28 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:54:28 <affirmative>. That's exactly what we needed. We need, we're part of the family now.
Speaker 3 00:54:33 Well, they did it right after Gamora finally understood 'em. So it's like to e sell it even better, it's like Gamora understood 'em now we understand them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 1 00:54:41 Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I think that's a perfect note. Um, we're all done today. Thank you everyone out there for listening. You can find all of our
[email protected], uh, including our continuing coverage on the M C U um, work. Can folks find you guys and your writing and thoughts?
Speaker 3 00:55:02 I'm Anthony Flaggy. You can find me at rodo on Twitter.
Speaker 2 00:55:07 Um, my name's Brian Kitson. You can find me at Kitson 3 0 1 on Twitter and you can find me every week on the Cosmic Circus.
Speaker 1 00:55:18 And I'm aah Ruby and you can find me at T U L A n writes on Twitter. Um, it's been wonderful. See you guys next time. And I am group.
