Episode 44

October 28, 2023

01:16:48

Halloween Horror Movies and Shows Discussion - Cosmic Circle Ep. 44

Halloween Horror Movies and Shows Discussion - Cosmic Circle Ep. 44
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Halloween Horror Movies and Shows Discussion - Cosmic Circle Ep. 44

Oct 28 2023 | 01:16:48

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Show Notes

Join host Brian Kitson and fellow Cosmic Circus writers John Dotson and Wiktor Reinfuss (Vic) as they share some of their favorite films and television series that are perfect for the Halloween season! From Chucky to Scream, Dracula to Supernatural, these three discuss a wide array of scary films and shows that are sure to fill you with terror. Plus listen to each of their stories of their first experiences with horror films!

Visit https://thecosmiccircus.com for the companion article for this podcast

Scary Halloween Movie and Show Recommendations

Brian's recommendations

Rose Red

Skeleton Key

Chucky/Child’s Play

The Descent

Marble Hornets

The Shining Rope

Psycho/Bates Motel

One Missed Call

Shining Vale

Goosebumps

John's recommendations

Host (2020)

Scream

Lake Mungo

Audition

Trick 'r Treat

The Girl With All the Gifts

Vic's recommendations

Sleepy Hollow

Halloween

Supernatural

The Ritual

Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola)

Podcast credits and show notes

Contributors/Writers

Brian Kitson

John Dotson

Wiktor Reinfuss

Executive Producer/Editor

Lizzie Hill

Recorded on 10/22/23

Superhero theme by HumanoideVFX on Pixabay.

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:16] Speaker A: Welcome back, listeners, to another episode of The Cosmic Circle, the official podcast of the Cosmic Circus. On today's episode, we are going to be discussing all things all things horror movies and Halloween. And I'm so excited for this discussion. My name is Brian Kitson, head writer at the Cosmic Circus. And joining me today, we have John and we have Vic. How are we doing today, guys? [00:00:37] Speaker B: Doing well. [00:00:38] Speaker C: How are hello there. Hello there. Spooky. Spooky. Spooky. October to you guys. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Happy Spookies. [00:00:47] Speaker A: I don't know if you guys have noticed, but I try to drop the word spooky season into every article I've done during this season just because why not? We are in the house of spooky. So before we get started, obviously spoiler warnings, everybody. We're going to be covering decades of horror movies. We're going to be talking about all different kinds of horror movies and television shows. Just be prepared for some spoilers because there's going to be things that we're going to talk about that we want to share with each other or our experiences or why these films are our favorites. But before we get started into our list, I want to start with how did we get started in horror movies in general? What was our experiences into the genre of spooky? And John, I want to start with you. Take me back to the day that you saw your first horror movie. Or what was your horror experience? Tell us what that was like for you. [00:01:45] Speaker B: So mine is a little ridiculous. [00:01:50] Speaker A: We love ridiculous. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah. The first quote unquote spooky movie that I watched was it's not even technically like straight up like a horror movie. But it's like the first one I was afraid of and it was Ernest scares. Scared. Stupid. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Oh, I did not expect that at all. [00:02:22] Speaker B: I don't know if anybody is aware of the earnest. They're not very good. They're not very good. But when you're a kid, they're amazing as a child, but there's a creature in there. I used to hide behind the couch every time I get appeared. And I remember that being the first time being afraid of a movie. But the first genuine horror movie that I remember watching on Halloween was Poltergeist. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Classic. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Yeah. So me and my family, we got together one night. And I don't know if you all know, but Poltergeist is rated PG. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Is it really? [00:03:18] Speaker B: It is rated PG. It has no business being rated PG at all. But it's rated PG. Look it up. [00:03:29] Speaker A: That sounds asinine because I've never seen that movie and I know that film is terrifying. [00:03:33] Speaker B: You can check my facts right now if you want. It is rated PG. [00:03:43] Speaker A: It is indeed. Holy. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Wow. [00:03:47] Speaker C: PG. 14. Or PG. [00:03:48] Speaker B: No PG. Rated PG. [00:03:51] Speaker C: Just PG. Oh my gosh. [00:03:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:53] Speaker B: So Spielberg went to the NPAA and contested the rating. I think it got rated RPG 13 at first. And because there's no violence, there's no cussing or anything like that. He was able to win a motor. But the movie is genuinely terrifying. And I remember the first thing I was afraid of was that God forsaken clown, the doll that was in the kid's room that should have been burnt beginning of the movie, that he would fall asleep right beside and throw a shirt over every night. And eventually, halfway through the movie, that doll get off the chair and pooped. I hate that movie. I hate it now. I hate it always, and I love it for it. Anyway, that was my first genuine horror film. [00:05:14] Speaker A: I'm just still shocked on the fact that this is a PG movie, but I guess it makes sense. What were they on in 1982? [00:05:23] Speaker B: It was a different time. [00:05:25] Speaker A: It was a different time, absolutely. All right, Vic, what is your experience into horror? [00:05:31] Speaker C: So I'm not a very horror person. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:36] Speaker C: I don't like horrors that much. I prefer the more psychological sense of the horrors rather than the visual one. And I mean, I like to feel kind of thrilled. I like to get scary, but I really don't like the horrors that have those mind tricks, like they are full of slashers, full of blood, full of killing. I don't like that kind of horror movies. And even since when I was a kid, I didn't like to be scared. I didn't like to get scared. I didn't like this feeling. And that changed kinda after I watched The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, because it was kind of superhero stuff and all that. And after this, there was a movie with Hugh Jackman called Van Helsing, and I really liked it because I heard a lot of good things about it when I was a kid. And when I kind of grew up, I was kind of nine or ten. I heard that it's the unofficial continuation of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There are characters that you know from this movie, but it's not them. You know what I mean? And I watched Van Hannaseng and I was like, I don't like that. I mean, the movie was good, but I don't like that. I think it was kind of noir style, like the latest Edgar Allan post adaptation with Christian Bale. It was on Netflix. Okay? It was this kind of style of movie, but we had Hugh Jackman who turned into a werewolf, so it was kind of sick. And till this day, I really am not a big fan of this movie. The whole story is okay. The relationship between characters is okay. But when it comes to terms of the Siege characters, the whole slashing thing, the whole slasher kind of vibe, no, that was my first horror movie, and after that, it didn't get any better every single time. I always prefer to watch this Scooby Doo, or as we should say this month, as Spooky Doo. [00:08:13] Speaker A: I appreciate that we have somebody that isn't super into horror here because I think that gives a very interesting perspective. And I think that the films you're going to bring up are going to look at horror in a different way. My experience into horror, but kind of similar. I was not big into horror, actually. I didn't watch any horror at all. I did not like Halloween. I did not like trick or treating. I was one of those kids that was terrified of my own shadow. But when I was 13, I was like, okay, guys, you can't force me to go trick or treating anymore. I won't do it. And so my sister was like, hey, why don't we stay home and watch some horror movies? And I was like, cool, they can't be scary. So she picked out two movies, one of them being The Others, and the second one was Death Becomes Her, which is a horror comedy. If nobody's seen that, they should. It's hilarious. It's fantastic. And I remember being terrified of one. And even though The Others is not scary, pretty much, I was terrified of it. But with death becomes her. It was hilarious. It was funny. I laughed my butt off. And I have been into horror ever since. Though maybe sometimes a little reluctantly because it's scary. And going to bed by yourself after is not fun because the killer is always in the shadows. Right? [00:09:39] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say death becomes her is amazing. It's more like a dark comedy. [00:09:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:09:50] Speaker B: But it's got scary elements into it. And yeah, I agree. It's great. And the others? No shame. There are some scary aspects to it. [00:10:12] Speaker A: What I love about The Others is that I didn't know until after I became a fan of Doctor Who and then I rewatched it, is that Christopher Eccleston is in the film. And I was very excited about that. Yeah. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Also, it's got a very good story to it. A really good story. Great actors, eccleston, as you said, Nicole Kidman. Nicole Kidman. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Whoa. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's good they don't make those gun. You don't see a Nicole Kidman horror movie anymore. [00:10:49] Speaker A: No. And the twist in that film, too, reminds me very much of the M. Night Shyamalan twist of like, you didn't quite expect it. And then it happened, and you're like. [00:11:01] Speaker C: Oh, can we not talk about him? I hate him. [00:11:05] Speaker A: You hate him. [00:11:09] Speaker C: I have three words for you, the Last Airbender. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Listen, we don't talk about that film. That film never existed. [00:11:17] Speaker C: Yes, exactly. [00:11:20] Speaker A: But there are some good films that he has done, and I will give him people hated The Village. I thought The Village was actually really interesting the first time. Maybe didn't have quite the rewatch value that I would have wanted out of it. But I enjoyed it that first time. And I'm going to stick with that. [00:11:37] Speaker B: I forgive him. I walked out of Airbender very mad offer gave him. He's done some good things since he's done some weird mixed things, too. But have you all seen Split? [00:12:01] Speaker A: I love split. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Split vic, you might like Split. [00:12:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I really love the unbreakable with Bruce Willis. It's an absolute classic. And I really like the 6th sense and science. Oh, yeah, I forget about science. Yeah. [00:12:23] Speaker A: It'S interesting you mentioned science, because I remember when that came out, people hated that one, too. [00:12:28] Speaker C: I mean, it's great. I've seen it only once. But man, if I remember correctly, Mel Gibson and Charlie Sheen. Yeah, and when you think about Charlie Sheen, you think about him as this guy from Two and a Half Man or the son of this guy of Martin Sheen. And it's like. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Movie three. [00:12:53] Speaker C: Exactly. Which was exactly the parody of it. Yeah. Question do we count Scary Movie 1234 or five as a horror movie? [00:13:05] Speaker A: No, it's a parody at best. What's interesting about Scary Movie is that it's actually a parody of a movie, which is a parody of a horror movie because Scream is actually a parody of horror movies. That's how it was made. [00:13:22] Speaker B: I can add to that. I can add to that. You know what the original title of Scream was? [00:13:30] Speaker A: What? [00:13:30] Speaker C: Silent killer movie. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Was it really scary movie. [00:13:37] Speaker C: If it was titled Scary Movie, I think it would have been better. But yeah, when I think about it, nowadays we can call a lot of movies horror movies, but they not necessarily have elements of horror. The whole genre evolved throughout the years. And now, for example, the Soul was a real horror movie. Like, I think, 20 years back. I don't remember when the first part was released, but now you can create a very dramatic thriller with no blood and all of that, and you can call it a horror. So it shows how much this genre evolved. [00:14:24] Speaker B: Well, that kind of brings me into another film that kind of influenced me, if I may. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Sure, absolutely. [00:14:32] Speaker B: I talked about it briefly before the podcast, but when I was like 1112, it was around the time that screamed him out, too. So I'm up late at night, like, watching HBO Cinemax or something, and I'm like, I'm a kid and a movie comes on and it's like Julia Roberts is in this know, Cooper Sutherland is in this. Baldwin back when he was A okay, like, there were all these A list actors, and this movie is haunting and it's spooky and it's like, wild. And they're, like, killing themselves and bringing themselves back to life. And when they come back to life, all these weird things start happening to them. I'm talking about the movie Flatliners. I don't know if anybody has seen, but I haven't. [00:15:57] Speaker A: But with Julia Roberts. Keith or Sutherland. Kevin Bacon's also. And I just looked it up. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Kevin Bacon and directed by. [00:16:09] Speaker C: Dobres. Oh, my God. This cast. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's the new one. [00:16:15] Speaker C: Okay, so we're talking about the 1990. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Do not watch the new one. [00:16:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I just saw that Keeperlandis in both of them and I'm like, oh. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Okay, the old one. And it's got like I don't know if it's aged too well. When I was younger, I got addicted to it. It was scary, but it was like thought provoking. It was like the first time I was aware that horror could be smart and they could have a great cast too. But yeah, that's one of the first horror movies I accidentally came across when I was a kid as well. [00:17:09] Speaker A: I love that. I'm making a list as we go of movies I need to watch flatline. [00:17:17] Speaker C: Trust me, don't do it. I have list of something about 300 movies that I didn't watch. [00:17:26] Speaker A: Listen, one day you're going to get to them. [00:17:30] Speaker C: Fun fact, on Wednesday, I started watching Mission Impossible, that reckoning, and I finished it today. So that says something. [00:17:39] Speaker A: Yeah, sometimes you got to break those movies up. But let's then jump into our recommendations or our all time horror films. We might not be able to cover all of them, unfortunately. So we are going to put them in the post for listeners to look at. But Vic, I want to start with you. Give me your first recommendation of your horror or Halloween film. [00:18:03] Speaker C: Okay, so I'm going to start with a very basic title that everybody heard of and it has a very basic title that is called Halloween. You didn't expect that. [00:18:15] Speaker A: No, I didn't. [00:18:17] Speaker C: Of course, I'm talking about the Halloween from 1978, directed by John Carpenter. But here's a twist. You can also watch the new one from like it was 2014 or 2017, I don't remember correctly. But the rob zombie one. No, I'm taking the one with Jamie licartis. But the one that happened 40 years after, I think okay, it could have been 2018. Yeah, 2018 because it was the 40th anniversary of Halloween. But it doesn't matter because those two movies, I really like to they are my favorite Halloween Halloween movie from John Carpenter. And also he was working on both of them. Someone else directed them the new one, but the classic one. Oh my God, when I first watched Know you hear the song compose was like and it's like, oh my God, it's starting really scary and I have chills. And when Michael Myers appears, oh my God. Don't confuse him with Mike Myers. Aston Powers. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, they're both terrifying. [00:19:31] Speaker C: In their own yeah, but Halloween, wow. It's such a really good movie. I mean, even when you know how it ends, you can rewatch it. Rewatch it, rewatch it again and over again. And Jamie Licartis, oh my God, she was so young back then, but even after 40 years, she still got it. I really don't want to spoil that much because I know some people know those classics but still didn't watch them. So they didn't get a chance to watch them, and they maybe know what happened. They may know what happened, but let's watch them. But the tempo with the music, I don't know how to say it when you keep the viewer in the constant I forgot the word. [00:20:30] Speaker A: The thing about one of those films, too, is it's the quintessential final girl film. When people think of the final girl, I don't even want to say it's the first one, but in my head, that is the one that just comes to mind of, like, Jamie Lee Curtis was the final girl, and she took on this serial killer for lack of a better terms, and she continues to do it 40 years later. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Arguably, it made slasher a mainstream product. There was like Psycho before that one, but slashers in general were not like mainstream until Halloween, because then there was like Friday the 13th, and then there was not around Elm Street. I don't think either one of those movies would have happened if there weren't for Halloween. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. When it comes to slashers, halloween is one of those slashers that is calmer than the others, if I may say so. Yeah, very much so. Yeah. And it's why I love it, because it's kind of on the verge of being a slasher or a typical horror movie. [00:22:00] Speaker B: Right? [00:22:01] Speaker C: I really like it. That's why I like it. I don't want to overhype it. I know people I will say this. [00:22:11] Speaker A: About Halloween, is that I have watched some of them. I have not watched most of them, but my entry into Michael Myers was the Rob Zombie ones. And so those were the first ones I watched, and I was like, oh, these are really they're great, but they're also kind of weird. And so it wasn't until the new one was coming out well, the first of the trilogy of the new ones, I went back and watched the original, and I was like, oh, it wasn't scary, but it wasn't scary in the sense of things are jumping out at you and stuff. But it's intense, and it's got that psychological thriller feel of it, which I understand why maybe you picked that one, but it's excellent. And am I going to watch Halloween 20? Like, what is it, h 20? Which is considered pretty bad. No, but I'm glad I did watch. [00:22:58] Speaker B: I'm a defender. I don't care. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Okay, we'll let you have it. Okay. [00:23:08] Speaker C: I know why people may love Halloween Four, but I still didn't watch Halloween Two, halloween Three, Halloween Four, because I really didn't want to destroy my version of Michael Myers of this whole story. Because to me and to John Carpenter, David Gordon Green, everything that happened between Halloween 1978 and 2018 isn't canon. So I really wanted to keep those bad movies out of my mind. But one day I have to watch Halloween Four just because it's a debit movie of Polar. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Okay, well, I want to hear your opinion when you watch it. All right, john, give us your first john, give us your first one. [00:23:52] Speaker B: My first recommendation. And it's not old or anything like that. This is more recent. So the pandemic happened, and everybody was everyone was an island for, like, year and a half, two years, and in that time frame, a movie came out, like a low key movie debuted on Shutter called Host. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Okay. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Kind of like what we're doing right now. I'm not trying to say what's happening behind the scenes right here, but we are on a zoom zoom call, and in the movie, what happens, it's kind of like, take the concept of paranormal activity, apply it into a zoom call. There's four people that are really good friends, and they're in the middle of the pandemic. They're by themselves. They can't really interact. It's spooky season, kind of like it is right now, and they think, Why don't we do something fun? And they decide to do a seance over a Zoom Call, and they all get together and bring in a medium to do a seance. And one of the people in the Zoom Call does not respect the process. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:52] Speaker B: In doing so, they invite the wrong thing in. Guys, this movie is awesome. It's so good. It's 1 hour, okay? It's 1 hour long. Not very long. It's scary when it starts, it does not stop. It just is a complete roller coaster all the way to the credits. [00:26:33] Speaker A: That's intense. I love that. [00:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's really intense. And what makes it intense is the first 15 minutes, because you actually feel like if you just stumbled across the video, you would think you're like watching somebody else's Zoom Call. [00:27:02] Speaker C: Okay? [00:27:03] Speaker B: You're like, oh, what is this? What is this video of these very five nice people that are talking? They feel real, they feel legit, they feel nice, and then it all goes nuts, and it's so good. And as an added bonus, I'm not sure if it's on all streaming platforms, but at the end of the credits on the movie, they show how before they ever did the movie, they actually did a seance as a crew over a Zoom Call and showed what happened, even with them. And it's pretty fun. [00:27:58] Speaker A: It's pretty fun stuff that sounds like they're trying to reenact the actual film here and bring something in. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Well, they did it before the movie went into the thing, before they went into production. [00:28:15] Speaker A: Got you. [00:28:16] Speaker B: It's pretty fun. I think it's one of my favorites right now. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Okay. I'm excited for that. It kind of reminds me a little bit of what is the movie I just saw in theaters? Let the right one in. Or might be let the right one no, but it's the one with the oh, talk to me, talk to me with the hand. [00:28:44] Speaker B: I mean, kinda does that I mean, Talk to Me is a little more I guess there's some similarities, I would say this one has more like paranormal activity aesthetics because you don't see the threat very much. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:29:15] Speaker B: It also plays with the tech, the technology. I don't want to give anything away, but I'll just give this one thing away. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:29:26] Speaker B: For example, you know how you can on your phone, how you could put effects over your face? Like you could pretend to be a dog or turn you into a vampire. Right. You know what I'm saying? [00:29:47] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:29:48] Speaker B: At one point in the movie, the girl is like walking into her living room and something is wearing the face digitally. [00:30:01] Speaker C: I know I'm not watching this. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go. It's in the middle of the room just sitting still like this. And then it works. [00:30:15] Speaker A: I think I'm going to watch this tonight. And when I'm terrified, I will be texting you. [00:30:23] Speaker C: So we got message every single minute. John, what did you do? What did you do? Why you hate. [00:30:30] Speaker B: The good news is it rips it off like a Mandy and it's only 1 hour. It hits and then it's over. [00:30:40] Speaker A: Okay. [00:30:40] Speaker B: We can only go like 30 minutes of terror and then it's done. [00:30:47] Speaker A: I can accept that. [00:30:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Okay. So for my first one, it actually was a miniseries on television back in the early 2000s. It's Rose Red by Stephen King and it is one of my favorites. For those who are familiar with the house, it is very reminiscent of the Winchester house, which has had people have disappeared and things have happened. And this is a haunted house that is coming to life after a group of psychics go in here to communicate with the dead and to discover spirits and stuff. And it's four and a half hours without commercials. It's 6 hours with commercials. I only know that because I have it on DVD and I watch it quite frequently. And I will say this, I watched this pretty much right after the others because it has Kimberly J. Brown from Halloween town in it? And I was like, I love her. I love Halloween town. I was a Disney kid growing up, so I watched this. And it is not the same as a Halloween Town movie because they are quite scary. But if you love haunted houses and you love spirits and you love cheap television horror, this is an excellent one. It's probably one of the best. And it has a book that goes with it. It's not an adapted from a book. The book is an adaption of one of the stories and histories from the house. [00:32:19] Speaker C: Kind of more of an inspiration rather than one to one adaptation. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So Stephen King wrote the movie and they filmed the movie. And then there's a character called Ellen Brimbrauer who was the owner of the house back when it was built in, I think, the 18 hundreds. And they allude to her story a little bit and he was like, oh, this is a great story. So he actually wrote it as one of the characters who found her diary. It's one of the characters in the movie found her diary and then published it. And then he turned around and made a movie off of that book to tell the story of Ellen Brimbrauer, her life at Rose Ride. So it's a little meta, but it's really cool. It's one of my favorites. Do you guys like haunted houses? [00:33:06] Speaker C: No, I still have PTSD after the monster. Know the animated movie. [00:33:11] Speaker B: Okay. I've never heard of this. It sounds interesting. I love the idea of a haunted house. I don't love the idea of going into a haunted house. [00:33:22] Speaker A: That's fair. This one, it had some stars in it that were, like, big for TV stars. Oh, what is the girl from Yellow Jacket? She was also in Last of US. [00:33:35] Speaker B: Melanie, I know you're talking about. Oh, yeah. Oh, my. About she's great. I know you're talking about the yes. [00:33:49] Speaker A: I can't think of Melanie Linsky, I think is her. [00:33:57] Speaker C: She's the neighbor from the Two and a half man. [00:34:02] Speaker A: This movie had Emily Deschanel from Bones. She played a psychic. It has Matt Ross, who I don't know if anybody's seen Silicon Valley, but he plays an asshole in that show. [00:34:14] Speaker C: Yes. [00:34:16] Speaker A: And he was an American Psycho, too. So there's some really good set pieces. And this is like that early it was actually from 2002. That early 2000s television horror. [00:34:29] Speaker B: Oh, man, the good old days. [00:34:32] Speaker A: You don't make them like that anymore. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of like the it TV where it's just like, man, they don't make six to eight hour horror TV shows anymore. [00:34:53] Speaker A: I wish they would I wish that we could go back to that a little bit. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I mean, technically, we kind of get it a little bit through Netflix, for example. Kind of like, what is it? [00:35:09] Speaker A: Follow the House of Usher. [00:35:10] Speaker B: The House of Usher is a great example. Which, if y'all ever watch that oh, my gosh. [00:35:16] Speaker A: I gotta watch that. I'm so excited for. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:20] Speaker B: So that we kind of get it. It's not the same. Sure. Got the same cheap aesthetic as the maple TV aesthetic that gave it a charm. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Sure. [00:35:35] Speaker B: We got to get yeah. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Do a miniseries. [00:35:38] Speaker A: Yes. [00:35:39] Speaker C: That's. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Flanagan. I think Mike Flanagan is one of those people that I know he's not with Netflix anymore. I think he's going over to Amazon. But I hear does this really well. I have not watched The Haunting of Hill House and I have not watched Midnight Mass, but I hear that all of these are just really good miniseries horror stories. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Okay, well, as we're talking about that, I want to say if you all don't watch Midnight Mass, you're not doing yourself any good in your life. It is the essential. Possibly not even in horror. Just even outside of horror. It's one of the most brilliant things ever put on TV. It is, really? Yeah. Very smart. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:30] Speaker C: Yeah. We're going to have a miniseries soon from Andy Machete. The Pennywise. [00:36:35] Speaker A: Yes, pennywise. What is it called? Something dreary. But yes, that's going to be something. [00:36:42] Speaker C: Happened in the City. [00:36:46] Speaker A: All right, Vic, give us your second recommendation. [00:36:50] Speaker C: Okay, I'm going to go with another basic title because would spit in my own face if I didn't mention it. And I know you love it too. So maybe let's say it together. Supernatural. Yes. [00:37:06] Speaker A: That's a classic one. [00:37:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Still my favorite. Especially the first, I think, first three, four seasons right before Castle showed up. So it's like a straight horror. Well, I can't even comprehend what I'm about to say. That's how I love Supernatural. Yeah. But when I started watching it, it was really scary because you have those ghosts. You have real people, like real life situations happening, not ghouls, not genes, not demons. Life was simpler back then. Their worst enemy were demons. That's it. And what happened in season 15, we all know. Yeah, but the first seasons of Supernatural and some single episodes were really scary. And to this day, I remember this episode about the dolls, like those creepy dolls or when there was a manhunt and they were thinking that a demon controlling someone or someone else. And in the end it was just a man, just an evil man. And it's really scary. And when I'm watching series like this, I know Supernatural is not down to earth series. But when I watch Halloween or some other project that doesn't have any Sci-Fi elements or something, it feels for me, it's scarier for me than the other one because there's a thought in back of my head when it's like, it's scary. Not because it's scary, but because it can happen in real life. And that's what really scares me. And Supernatural, in many cases it was this. But right after we go into season six, seven and all that, it's not that scary. It's more of a you just get used to it. But the first seasons of Supernatural and the whole series is full of horror stuff and I love it. [00:39:25] Speaker A: I think that you have a very good point with this one. I think it's one of the first mainstream week to week horror shows that we got. I think that it really kind of paved the way for things like American Horror Story where we started to have more shows. I will say it was scarier in the beginning and around season five because originally Supernatural was written as a five season arc. And when it got to the end of season five, they're like, we can continue on. And they didn't know what they were doing. And they leaned more into the comedy horror aspect and it kind of got a little more funny. But I'll also be honest. Supernatural and I have a very complicated history where I binged the first eight and a. Half seasons in the matter of a semester of college. And I caught up. I got burnt out and I've never gone back. I got burnt out. I was like, I can't do this. [00:40:20] Speaker C: I watched the whole 15 seasons in like three months. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Dedication, I'll give you that. [00:40:26] Speaker C: Dedication. Yeah, that's true. But we're talking about it. I think that it's the series that I'll get back to single episodes or single moments rather than the whole series. Or if I'm about to watch it with someone, then I'm going to watch it all over again. But I don't think there's a hope for Mia to watch it all over again alo the whole 15 seasons. I don't think I would manage it. [00:41:05] Speaker A: I'll go back and finish it eventually. But it's definitely one of those ones that it works really well for the horror genre, but it was quintessential. Again, WBCW horror. It has the same kind of feels but a little scarier than not supernatural smallville. Yeah, it was a time period. [00:41:27] Speaker C: Yeah, they were going simultaneously. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Okay, John. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Well, I was going to say I've never seen Supernatural, so don't be mad at me, guys. [00:41:39] Speaker C: Watch it. It's worth it. [00:41:40] Speaker A: It's too much of an undertaking. If you did not start before season ten, it's going to occupy too much. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Kind of why I never did it just kind of was a blind spot for me at the time. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Sure. [00:41:56] Speaker B: All right, John, my turn. [00:41:59] Speaker A: Give us number two. [00:42:05] Speaker B: For time's sake. I want to go to the next one. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Sure. [00:42:08] Speaker B: Just in case. [00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:12] Speaker B: I had scream on here. I love scream. It influenced me. I don't think I have to say a lot about that. A lot of people don't already know, but just fill it out there. That movie changed. That was the reason why I got it was my Lincoln Park to get into Rock as Scream was to give me the horror. [00:42:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Anyway, but moving on from that, my third one is a movie called Lake Mongo. And I discovered this movie in college. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:04] Speaker B: So this was like back when Netflix first started and they had all kinds of titles that were being licensed and you were getting on it, discovering movies that you never watched. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Lake Mongo is such an underrated, overlooked, like, masterpiece movie. It is a fake documentary about a girl that just vanished. And throughout the film, there's paranormal aspects, there's atmosphere, there's interviews. And everybody is at a level ten on performing this documentary. And everybody feels real, everybody feels legit. You actually feel like you're watching a Netflix documentary. [00:44:19] Speaker A: Okay. So kind of like in the air of The Blair Witch Project almost. [00:44:23] Speaker B: It's kind of like that, but it's done in a documentary format. [00:44:33] Speaker A: Okay. [00:44:34] Speaker B: And for whatever reason, the atmosphere, it's actually kind of scary. And it ends on a note. I'm not going to give it away, but it ends on a note where it stays in your remember that moment when you watched and I don't want to give it away, but Inception, did you all watch Inception? [00:45:05] Speaker C: Yes, I have the best Christopher Nolan movie. [00:45:09] Speaker B: Excuse me, Brian, you said you didn't watch Inception. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Oh, you know what? I might have saw that in theaters. That's the one with the spinning top, right? [00:45:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm about to say you're going right to jail. [00:45:25] Speaker A: I have seen it. I've seen it. People. Please don't. [00:45:27] Speaker B: All right. [00:45:30] Speaker A: I have not seen it in years, though. It was like when it first came out in theaters, I saw it. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Okay, so the end of it where it leaves you with a bot that just keeps spinning in your mind. Sure, same thing, only it's more disturbing. I can't recommend this movie enough if you're looking for something different like manga, there's nothing like it. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Okay. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And there's not like, a lot of jump scares. There's no violence. It's just pure atmosphere. [00:46:19] Speaker C: Okay. I don't want to it disrespect the poltergeist, but it's like a poor version of poltergeist. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Well, no poltergeist. I would actually say you actually jump. There are terrifying things like, look at that. [00:46:37] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:40] Speaker B: There's no doll clowns that are moving. It's hard to explain without giving too much away. [00:46:50] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, from what you're saying, it sounds to me it's like I don't know if you've watched this movie, but it's called it follows. [00:46:58] Speaker B: So it's something for example, while they're researching all this stuff that's going on with this family, they're documenting footage in their home and throughout the footage, you'll see in the background, just like things that you may see or you're not sure you saw or maybe the girl was in the room. It's very clever the way he does the ingredients of this supernatural thing that's going on with the family. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:47:48] Speaker B: And you grow to care about them. Guys, just watch it. I could go on for like 20 minutes about this. I'm telling you, there's nothing like manga. [00:48:02] Speaker C: Okay. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Again, it's getting added to the list. All the films that you guys are suggesting are going to be the next week of my viewing. I think I'm going to jump down my list, too, because my second one is skeleton and Key. It's one of my favorites. But I think that for the sake of time, we can skip that one. Just watch it if you haven't. Psychological thriller has to do with a little bit of voodoo and stuff. Fantastic. It's Kate Hudson. It's a horror movie with Kate Hudson. She does a great job. I remember it from my childhood. I bought it from Blockbuster when it was going on a sale because I just love that film. But I'm going to skip down to child's playchucky, depending on what you call that franchise. [00:48:48] Speaker C: Chucky. Always Chucky. [00:48:50] Speaker A: I did not see this franchise until a year ago. I was in Vegas for my best friend's bachelor weekend, and we were having some downtime and Sci-Fi was playing a marathon, and he was just like, I'm gonna put this on. And I was like, okay, whatever. And I was laughing so hard at how hilarious this franchise was. I was like, okay, I got to watch this. And I went back. Sorry, it's been two years, not one year. And I went home and I found them all to record on my DVR. And I watched them all through. I've watched the TV show. It is one of my favorites. This is like a really good blend of that horror and comedy that you don't see necessarily done well in a lot of films or that it stops taking itself so seriously. The first one is so serious. It tries to be serious, and you can't help a laugh because it's a little doll running around murdering people. That's hilarious. Record disclaimer. We do not think murdering people is hilarious, but the concept is funny. And after the first one, it no longer takes itself serious and it just is there to have fun. And if you haven't watched the TV show, it is one of the best TV shows out there right now. It's in its third season and it just keeps getting better. I highly recommend Child's Play. Have you seen it? [00:50:22] Speaker B: Yes, I've seen all the movies. I've seen well, no, not all. I've seen, like, Curse of Chucky, Mercy of Chucky, but I've seen everything up to Bride of Chucky. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Sure. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Which I think Bride of Chucky is amazing. It's great. It's great. It's so funny. And I've seen season one of the TV show and I loved it. I have not stayed with it. I need to get back on it. I enjoy it. It's so ridiculous and it's unapologetic about it. [00:51:07] Speaker A: It does not hold any and it's it just keeps getting more and more like this in spoiler. Not saying much too much of it, but Chucky decides that he's going to go and take the White House and become President of the United States. [00:51:18] Speaker C: Oh, my. [00:51:19] Speaker A: That is no hilarious. That is hilarious. [00:51:22] Speaker C: Sounds like Stewie Griffin. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Yes. It's exactly what it's like. It's like Stewie Griffin if he was a murderous doll. 100%. [00:51:30] Speaker B: It's the horror version. A family guy. Pretty much. [00:51:34] Speaker A: Absolutely. I love that the TV show really embraces some young actors because I looked it up and some of them now are 16. They were, like, actually 14 filming this. And so it's not like it's a 30 year old trying to play a teenager. And so I think that's a really interesting aspect. And they're really good. The three main characters are fantastic actors. I cannot applaud that show enough. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Well, season one actually had a very tender love story in there, too. Really good. In a representative one, too. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Yes. Which I was not expecting to go going into that. [00:52:18] Speaker B: Neither was I. But it was good. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Season two definitely leans more into the mythology, and it brings back almost all the characters from the past films and really ties up a lot of the stories that were left. I don't know. I recommend that one. [00:52:34] Speaker B: And what I find amusing, his daughter. His daughter, yes. Plays him when he's younger. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:52:45] Speaker B: I'm just like, man, it's so cool. Brad dwarf's daughter. Yeah. [00:52:53] Speaker A: And the fact is that this series also is I'm pretty sure he's still attached to it, but the original creator and writers and stuff, they're all still there and they're all still developing the show. [00:53:04] Speaker C: Wow. Yeah. I really have to watch it because I've only seen the first one and the one with Mark Hamill. [00:53:11] Speaker A: Oh, we don't talk about that. [00:53:15] Speaker B: One. [00:53:16] Speaker C: Why is it wow. [00:53:17] Speaker A: The reboot that had Mark Hamill as. [00:53:21] Speaker B: Not it was not authorized by the original creator, so it doesn't have a good name among the fan base. [00:53:33] Speaker C: Yeah, it was okay for me. [00:53:37] Speaker B: I had fun with it. I had fun with it. But. [00:53:45] Speaker A: It'S not widely accepted by people. And if you talk about it with fans, not me, because, again, I watched it much later in life. But there's some people, they're like it's the last airbender to them. [00:53:55] Speaker B: You don't talk about it. [00:53:56] Speaker C: Oh, that bad. Okay. The worst movie they ever seen. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, Vic, if you want to jump around, if you want to talk about R1 quick and go to another. [00:54:08] Speaker C: One, but give us another recommendation because I think that we don't have that much time. [00:54:14] Speaker A: We're running a little bit over. [00:54:15] Speaker C: Yeah, because I'll just do an honorable mentions. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Sure. [00:54:20] Speaker C: So there's an Invisible Man from 2021 of my favorite horror movies. It definitely stands better than Midsummer for me. And midsummer was also good. [00:54:37] Speaker B: Did you say the new movie is a WOL in or the old one? [00:54:40] Speaker C: The new one, the one from 2020. [00:54:41] Speaker B: It is so good. [00:54:44] Speaker A: I have not seen it yet, but I hear it's great. [00:54:47] Speaker C: It's incredible. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. Or as Chris Ecclestone would say, fantastic. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Why do you like that one so much? What is it about that film? [00:55:00] Speaker C: It's more of a psychological drama, psychological thriller rather than the funny guy who just disappeared. And it's more from the perspective of victim rather than Invisible Man himself. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Okay. [00:55:19] Speaker C: Yeah. So that really works out. There's full of drama. There's a full of psychotic episodes, and that works really well. The one that I'm going to skip is also a classic Dracula from. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Reeves. [00:55:35] Speaker C: Gary Oldman. Antonio Hopkins. Yeah, I really love it. I mean, I love Bala Lu Garci. I love Leslie Nielsen Dracula, but Gary Oldman is the one that I started my Dracula adventure with. And there was this accident called Dracula Untold, if I remember correctly. [00:55:59] Speaker A: The newer one. [00:56:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it had its moments, but it wasn't worthy of Dracula title for me. And the last honorable mention is A Cure for Wellness from Gorbinski, the movie that you can't watch alone, especially at night, because it's so freaking weird. It's full on weirdness. And if you remember the soul, if you remember how weird those traps were, you can take it to A Cure for Wellness, but change the traps for the story. It's so weird, so complicated that I really can't think about this movie. And one spoiler that I will give you about this movie, eels. Watch out for the eels. Okay, but you're muted, Brian. [00:56:57] Speaker A: I said I don't know anything about this film. I've heard of it, I think, but, like, in a distant memory. But I pulled up the page and it looks interesting. Cure for wellness. [00:57:16] Speaker B: It's very good. Very good. [00:57:19] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it has a great cast. Daniel de hang. Jason isaacs you just want to watch it, but be careful. And my last title, We Don't Have That Much Time, is a small movie that has had a budget a little less under a million dollars. And it's called the Ritual from 2017. And it's a really brutal fantasy horror. It starts with a really down to earth story where there's a group of friends. One of them is killed in a robbery, and they all go to, I think it's Sweden. It's somewhere in the Nordic part. And they travel together to just forget about it and to honor their friend. And they go into the forest. And I think you may know where this goes. There's a big monster. It's called in Polish, it's very known beast from the Witcher Free. But in this movie, I don't think it was called like that. But let me search it up quickly. [00:58:45] Speaker A: This movie looks I feel like this is one of those movies that the whole vibes are just terrifying. It just feels off putting. A forest. [00:58:57] Speaker C: Yeah. They enter into the forest and it gets really a full on gore. In Polish, it's called Bias, but I don't know if it's called like this in English or Bihem. Oh, it says Bihemov, but it's a really big like a deer monster. But it's like a combination of bear, deer and all that. It doesn't matter when you see it, you'll know what I mean? But, yeah, it's also a psychological movie because there's one person who was with this friend in the shop when he was robbed, and he feels really guilty. He feels that it's his own kind of redemption, going to this trip with his friends to kind of, I don't know, redeem himself. But when you watch it, it feels like it talks about very important things about life, about your friends, about family. But you really have to focus on it. Not on the horror part of the movie, but more of the dialogues about on the characters, because it's all about the way they go through and wow, I really don't want to spoil it. [01:00:29] Speaker A: Okay. [01:00:31] Speaker C: Because the whole plot twist of this movie or the ending is really important to the whole part of yeah, but also I forget about it because there's a Polish movie who is available on American Netflix. It's a full on slasher. And I mean, I don't like it because it has some Polish people who I don't like, and it's called Nobody Sleeps in the Woods Tonight. I had to translate it, but it's so freaking weird. I don't know. It had a really low budget. But if you want to watch a horror that has a lot of slasher moments, that has a lot of blood, a lot of weird things, basically, it's a movie about the venom and carnage, but they were born in Poland. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:27] Speaker C: You'll see what I mean if you watch it, but it's so funny. [01:01:31] Speaker A: Okay, that's a great list. Yeah. [01:01:34] Speaker C: The Ritual is a horror worth of watching, but only if you're not afraid of blood. [01:01:42] Speaker A: Okay, John, you want to take us through some of the other highlights of your. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Want to? If I can respond to the ritual. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Sure. [01:01:53] Speaker B: For sure. The guy who directed The Ritual, I mean, that's a good movie, too. He also directed one of my favorite movies of the last three years called The Night House. If you guys I'll touch on it briefly. The Night House has an extremely tremendous actress. Rebecca. Rebecca hall. Rebecca hall. It is so good. It's got strong themes about depression and dealing with grief and things like that. David Bruckner is a director. I would definitely check that out if you have not seen that as well. Okay, but to finish out my list, I'm going to group my last two together in one package. The first one is audition. Have you heard of audition? [01:03:03] Speaker A: I have not. [01:03:06] Speaker B: Let me tell you about Audition. So Audition is another one of those movies that I discovered back when Netflix first sprung up through the recommendation grapevine. The guy who directed it, I'm not going to even try to pronounce his name. He's a really famous director in Japan. The first hour and 15 minutes of this movie is like a romantic drama. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Okay? Interesting. [01:03:49] Speaker B: For a long time, you're thinking, did I play the right movie? Am I watching the right film? And then the last 45 minutes is a complete mind melt of an experience okay. That goes into full blown psychotic body horror craziness. [01:04:23] Speaker C: I'm reading the description now, and it's so effed up. [01:04:29] Speaker B: It is very messed up. But it's good in a way that I can't describe because it makes you feel cozy and safe for so long that when it pulls the rug out from under you, you're just like, oh, my gosh, what did I walk into? But if you haven't seen that film, audition is great. It won't make you not want to date for at least a year after watching it. [01:05:15] Speaker A: That's fair. [01:05:17] Speaker B: I love it. Audition is great. But for my last recommendation, and I think this is one that Brian loves as well. [01:05:26] Speaker C: I do. [01:05:27] Speaker B: Guys, I have a deep infatuation for trick or treat. [01:05:37] Speaker A: It's so good. [01:05:39] Speaker B: It's so good, guys. Okay, so I rewatched this film last night, and as the kids would say in these days, this movie flops. And it flops so good. [01:05:59] Speaker A: So hard. [01:06:00] Speaker B: It's so hard. It flops so hard. So Trickortreat is an anthology film that tells four or five different stories. And it's written and directed by the guy who I think wrote x men and x men two michael doherty. And he brings some of those familiar faces into the film. Like he's got Anna Paquin in it and possibly one of the best roles she's ever played. Nobody talks about Brian Cox before he cogs it up in succession, playing this old, angry, Cox inspired character. Gets tortured by this weird entity thing in the most cartoonish, wildly coyote way. [01:07:15] Speaker A: That part's very reminiscent of Chucky. [01:07:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very Chucky like. It's very Chucky inspired. It's got the guy who plays Dr is Connors the lizard guy? [01:07:32] Speaker A: Yes. Dylan Baker. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Dr. Connors in it as, like, the most creepy character that he like, of all and very disturbing and troubling. What he does in the film. It's played very funny. I would make an argument that this is a four quadrant film that anybody can like. It like your girlfriend, your mom. It's not overly violent. There's not a lot of cussing. It's just a silly, scary good time. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:08:21] Speaker B: And it's just guys, Trickortreat is amazing. It's so good. I don't know why more people don't talk about it. It's so good. [01:08:34] Speaker A: The thing I love about Trickortreat is that I remember the first time I watched it, my friend who worked at a video store got to take movies home for free to watch and then obviously bring them back. And she was like, Listen, I got this horror film that this one customer is raving about. It's been on our shelf. We got to watch it. And I watched it, and I was like, oh, my God. No. This is so much better than why is this just on the bargain shelf for a dollar? [01:09:01] Speaker B: Great. Well, because it went into production. It went into production and it got shelved for, like, forever. I don't remember how long it was shelved, but it was for a good while. They didn't put it out in theaters. And instead of sticking it in theaters like they should have, like normal people should have, they just sent it direct to video and nobody heard about it. [01:09:34] Speaker A: It's so sad. [01:09:36] Speaker B: It's so sad, and it's great. There is no reason why this movie should not be considered a classic, because I'm telling you, if anybody is listening to this podcast, please go watch Trick or Treat. It needs more love. It really does. [01:10:01] Speaker A: It does. I didn't even realize it was delayed so much, but I'm looking here, and it had its first screening in December 9, 2007, but was not even released until October 2009. It just sat there for two years. [01:10:13] Speaker B: Two years. Two years. And I don't know why. I don't know if the Amazon tugney didn't know what to do with it. But how do you not know what to do with that movie? [01:10:24] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:10:26] Speaker B: It's good. It's so good. [01:10:29] Speaker A: In fact, this is hilarious. The film had its first theatrical release for the first time on October 6, 2022. That is mind boggling. I am so glad that was on your list. I wish I would have thought of that sooner before I made my list. [01:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm telling you, there's a sequence in this. Every story in Trickortreat sets up a thing and then he does a twist on that thing. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. [01:11:08] Speaker B: And the thing that is involved with her, man, watching it again, I was, like, grinning ear to ear. It's so good. Guys, watch Trick or Treat, please watch it. I'm begging everyone, if you skip every movie on my list, watch Trick or Treat, please. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Absolutely. I totally agree. I have a few on my list. I'm going to try to run through them really quickly because obviously we're running out of time. We got the shining classic. Don't need to go into that one anymore. Rope by oh, my gosh. What is the guy that did Psycho? Alfred Hitchcock. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Albert Hitchcock. Yeah. [01:11:57] Speaker A: An excellent one. There was a play that they adapted into a movie about two brothers that kill someone. They keep them in a trunk and they have a dinner party over top of it. What else do you need? It's fantastic. Psycho and Bates Motel. Need I say more? I have Marble Hornets, which if those who don't know Slenderman. He's terrifying. It's kind of a found footage story. It's done in parts. I think it's like 60 parts on YouTube. They're terrifying. And the fact that it feels very real, even though this is Slenderman and he's not real, one Missed Call, which, John, I remember you asking if it was going to be the American version or the Chinese version. [01:12:42] Speaker B: And, of course, One Missed Call has one of the most terrifying oh, my God, daytime in front of everybody in the world sequences that I've ever experienced. [01:12:57] Speaker A: Terrifying. It's absolutely terrifying. [01:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:02] Speaker A: When I first saw that film, I was in high school and I saw it with my friends at our house and they had their mom play a prank on me where she called my phone and then hang up real quick. And it was so cruel. But it made the movie even better. [01:13:15] Speaker B: It's that ringtone, man. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:13:19] Speaker B: For sinking ringtone. I think it ends a little silly. It gets a little carried away with itself at the end of it, but everything building up to that point. It's very good. Yes. [01:13:40] Speaker A: But my last one that I want to hit, absolutely, is The Descent, which is it's terrifying in the fact that it's very claustrophobic. It's a group of friends that go cave diving, and there's something in the caves with them and they have to squeeze in little areas and they have to try to fight for their lives. If you want a really good claustrophobic film, check out The Descent. It's also great. Don't check out part two. You don't need it. Part one is where is that? [01:14:11] Speaker C: I mean, it sounds really scary. It's like this one movie with James Franco where he had to cut off his leg at the end. [01:14:18] Speaker A: 127 Hours. [01:14:20] Speaker C: Yeah. Tight spaces. We don't like them. No. The worst horror movie is the one where you see your own fears coming to true. [01:14:34] Speaker A: Claustrophobia is a thing that I do struggle with sometimes. And at the time that my ex was like, hey, I got a movie for you, then that if you like horror movies, this is really going to make you feel horrific. And that film, it's hard to breathe. It's hard to breathe during that. [01:14:51] Speaker C: Definitely no. [01:14:53] Speaker A: So that being said, we are running out of time. As much as I'd love to continue talking about horror movies with the two of you, we have to let the listeners go. So we'd love to continue the conversation. So check us out on thecosmiccircus.com or you can always find us on Twitter or other social medias at mycosmiccircus or the Cosmiccircus podcast. Twitter at cosmic podcasts. Thank you so much for tuning into the Cosmic Circle. I'm Brian Kitson and you can find me on Twitter at kitson 301 John Vic. It's always a pleasure talking to the two of you. Before we go, can you tell the people where they can find you? [01:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you can find me at Twitter or X or whatever it's called these days at John Moviewatch. And you could also find me probably in the near future, blue sky at John Dotson Wright. [01:15:50] Speaker A: Perfect. [01:15:52] Speaker C: I was big. You can find me at X at Eritrexalke, but I may not be there for long. As Elon said, Europe is bad, so there may be a ban on X. So you may find me on Blue Sky. I think I have the same nickname. Or not, whatever it says. If you want, you'll find. So don't get too scared this month. [01:16:18] Speaker A: And as always, you can find us writing at the Cosmic Circus website. So thanks again, everybody. Can't wait for our next trip through the cosmos. [01:16:26] Speaker C: Bye bye. Happy spooktabler.

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