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Speaker 1 00:00:17 Welcome back, cosmic Family to another episode of the Cosmic Circle, the official podcast of the Cosmic Circus, where we discuss everything nerdy in the entire cosmos. On today's episode, we will be discussing the new DC slate of films that were announced today. Uh, I'm super excited to talk about this. My name is Brian Kitson, head writer at The Cosmic Circus. And joining me today are Anthony Flagg and Drew Reed. How we doing, guys?
Speaker 2 00:00:41 Doing pretty good. What's up guys? I'm Drew and, uh, doing pretty good. Excited to talk some DC today.
Speaker 3 00:00:48 Hey y'all, it's Anthony. I got a lot of thoughts and I'm very excited to go through most of them with you this evening.
Speaker 1 00:00:55 I am so excited for these thoughts. I cannot wait. So, before we jump into every individual project, 'cause there is quite a few different projects that were announced today, I wanna get your general thoughts. What were you thinking about this slate that was announced so far? And I know that this is not the entire slate, they said this is only the beginning of chapter one, um, titled Gods and Monsters, right? Gods and Monsters.
Speaker 3 00:01:18 Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 00:01:18 Um, mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what were your thoughts about the Slate so far?
Speaker 2 00:01:22 I mean, to be honest, I wasn't really that surprised, honestly. It j it felt very James Gunn. Like it felt very, um, like I knew we were gonna get like a mix of some Superman, Batman, I'm sure Wonder Woman will work in there. But like, the obscure stuff didn't really kind of surprise me. I, I kind of feel like I knew he was gonna throw in like, some kind of obscure kind of obscure characters. And I think, like, I think I'm, I'm really interested in the authority and, uh, kind of learning more about them. 'cause they're kind of, I feel like that's gonna be like James Gun's, like DC's kind of how he brings up like the Guardians of the Galaxy from like, you know, like Sealevel characters and makes them mainstream. I feel like he's gonna do the same thing with those characters.
Speaker 3 00:02:05 Yeah, I had a similar feeling 'cause uh, the way it kind of struck me when I saw the full list was this feels like phase one and a little bit of phase two when Marvel announced, because phase one was just those main characters that led up to the Avengers and that was it. Then we go into phase two, we started getting more, you know, we got, like you just said, guardians like Galaxy, that was a little bit of a left field. So I, I like that they threw in something like, you know, swamp Thing and that the chapter name Gaza Monsters really does reflect what they have coming out.
Speaker 1 00:02:36 I think it was just such a outta left field for me for some of these project names. When I had originally heard them and I was reading through them, I was like, man, this is not what I had pictured for Chapter one of the, the new DC Universe, D C U for sure. But I think that it is a hundred percent what James Gunn, like, who he is to pull some of these really wacky and zany characters mixed with the, the 10 poles that people are gonna really wanna see. And so I wasn't a hundred percent surprised. And I am interested in how 10 projects, 11 projects, counting, uh, else worlds. How that's only the beginning of chapter one. That's a lot of projects really quickly.
Speaker 2 00:03:16 So I think you said it's gonna be laid out what, two pro two movies and two shows a year. I think that's a pretty good balance to start off with. It's kind of like similar to how that like Marvel started. I mean, even in phase one, I know where everybody's gonna compare it a lot to Marvel, but mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I think, you know, four projects a year is even more than what Marvel was doing. I mean, we had phase one, you had Iron Man and then you had what, you know, iron Ironman, incredible Hulk, incredible Hulk Ironman, two Ironman or Captain America. Captain America, yeah. And then Avengers, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, we're <laugh> definitely getting in on twice the amended projects for this before our first kind of Justice League kind of assembling. So,
Speaker 3 00:03:52 And to build off of that, you know, they, they grab those big characters they're already accounted for. We're not waiting for, you know, like, oh, are we getting Batman? We are. But we're also getting some stuff outside of it.
Speaker 2 00:04:05 Yeah. I think it, like, we're getting Batman kind of like, in like a different, I think, in a way that we have not seen in a movie before, which is interesting. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, like, I mean, since the nineties obviously we haven't really seen Robin. I mean, I don't know if you count Joseph Gordon Levitt <laugh>, but like, no, it's gonna be a while. It's gonna be, it's been a while since, you know, we've seen the Robin in a Live Action Batman movie. So,
Speaker 1 00:04:30 You know, I think that it's really interesting that part of this presentation from James Gunn and Saffron was that they, they talked about specifically Saffron, he talked about the strategy was to take what he called the diamond characters like Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. And to mix them with these lesser known properties to build like this bigger project going forward. Like this bigger, more expansive world where, you know, Marvel took a lot of these characters that were like B-list characters not at first, and really built this world out. So I think that it's interesting to use, like, to have the mix of like, the really popular ones and the not so popular ones. You know, going off of that, you know, our first project is a lesser known character, uh, Anthony, have you ever heard of the Creature Commandos before?
Speaker 3 00:05:24 Nope. That was, that and Authority were the fun ones. 'cause I was like, every single person just about had to Google that. Like, that was definitely right from the get go. Um, <laugh> and I'm just like, still, I have no idea what what they're about. Which is exciting because that's the animated one, correct. Creature Commandos. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:05:46 It's the DC Universe is starting with an animated project. Granted, it's, it's interesting 'cause they, they have a picture that they kind of put out seven episodes animated, written by James Gunn himself already in production. And you got some of these really interesting looking characters. Like we have Weasel that we know from Suicide Squad and we have all these other different characters like a Frankenstein ish character and like a, a bride of Frankenstein character and like a robot in a Army uniform. It kind of reminds me of like, uh, Hellboy, like some of the characters remind me like a little bit of Hellboy, but like, just these really legate monsters, creature commandos. I think it's a really interesting move to come out of the gate swinging with a project that is not one of the diamond characters. I think it could be really big for them though.
Speaker 3 00:06:38 What I found really cool is that James Gunn didn't exactly confirm, but he said the goal here is to have those people voice those characters so that when we go to live action it'll carry over to have that consistency.
Speaker 2 00:06:53 Yeah. Yeah. I hope they do like the opposite too. Like, I would really like to see like, live action go into animated and like, I feel like I, I don't know, it it, you know, people interpret animation differently than like to interpret the movies, but I think it'd be really interesting to continue to build on both animated and movies and have like really big actors go into animated and go into like these kind of smaller projects maybe for like, you know, just to pop up in there. But I just think that'd be really cool. Like, he kind of spoke about how you're gonna see it interconnected between like, movies, gaming mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, TV shows, all that stuff. And I hope they kind of really like buy into that. 'cause you've never really seen that before. You know,
Speaker 3 00:07:32 It's very ambitious, but it's also exciting 'cause like that's a big ordeal to include video games, you know? Sure. Video game development is a whole different ball game from just movies or TV shows. And, and DC has had a wealth of good games that have come out in the past. So now to include even better storytelling or connected storytelling, for me as, as someone who likes the game, I'm pretty excited. Acum, the Acum games are like a standard nowadays. And to see what they might do that with other projects, maybe we finally get a decent Superman game. I'm on board.
Speaker 1 00:08:12 It also is interesting too, because this is something that not even Marvel has done yet, because like while they had certain games they'd never been connected to the, their movie universe. And we've had issues with the television shows prior to the Disney plus ones that they didn't weren't all integrated. And so while Marvel is starting to build this, DC is like, Hey, we can do this quicker and faster and have a better integration between it all. And I think that it's either gonna be one of the greatest things that's ever happened for it's come book fans or it's gonna go down swing and real quick. And I think like it's, I think with someone like James Gun Behind the Wheel, it, it's, I guess it's 50, it's worth the
Speaker 2 00:08:53 Risk. Yeah. I think it's definitely worth the risk I think at this point. Like what do they have to lose? You know, like sure.
Speaker 2 00:09:00 DC's already kind of went down the rabbit hole and I think, I mean from what I've seen today, I kind of like, my faith is like a little bit restored. I definitely feel mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, it feels very, you know, like we said at the beginning, it feels very James Gun. Sure. You know, and that's what I think we expected. So. And I think his thing definitely, I think the, the Monsters thing, I think he's gonna be really good with that. Sure. I'm really interested to see how he handles Superman. I think that's my biggest thing because Ja Superman is not a character that Stripes strikes me. Like as a James Gun kind of character, you know,
Speaker 1 00:09:35 Be before we get to Superman though on the, the list coming after that is actually Waller, which is the most gun move there is bringing in his peacemaker show through a spinoff with Viola Davis who deserves every single show that she's ever on because she is absolutely amazing. But I think that was maybe a big shock for me 'cause I was not expecting to, I was expecting him to bring over things. But like, this was like a blatant like my world staying in everybody else's world sand boxes leaving very quickly.
Speaker 3 00:10:11 That felt like a driven Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:13 Yeah. I think, you know, like a lot of people, I I think you could assume that Peacemaker was gonna stay the whole peacemaker world that he's been building. I think you could assume that that was gonna stay. Um, he even kind of said, you know, she's gonna be working with Team Peacemaker in there. So I think they still a lot left to build on that, whether it's else Worlds or it's, you know, in the new D C U I think that he didn't really clarify that as Right. Like, I don't think he said that today, whether it was else Worlds or if it was in DC I think that's kind of like in a gray area right now. Right.
Speaker 1 00:10:41 I think it's a hundred percent in the D C U I think else worlds, the only thing that was announced for else worlds was Batman Two
Speaker 3 00:10:47 And Joker.
Speaker 2 00:10:48 Okay. That makes sense. And Jokers makes sense.
Speaker 1 00:10:51 So like, this is a part of the world. What, what are your thoughts on that, Anthony?
Speaker 3 00:10:59 I'm not surprised at all. I kind of mean James <laugh>. I mean, it's like James Gunn likes what he likes. Part of his personality is he works with the things he enjoys, the people he likes working with. So it, it would be very hard for him to just give that up for mm-hmm. <affirmative> a grander design and through hopeful creative storytelling, they can be able to incorporate it all. Uh, you know. Sure. Yeah. We'll get to it eventually in the podcast, but we're gonna talk about how these current, like the movies Destin come out this year, how they'll play into everything, so mm-hmm. For sure. I'll give more thoughts.
Speaker 2 00:11:34 Yeah. Um, I do think it's interesting. I think part of the deal when he first came on was probably that peacemaker, the whole peacemaker world has been building has gotta stay. And that, that makes sense. Right. I mean, your kind of whole thing you've, you've done at DC so far has been, you know, arguably one of the more successful projects in the past, you know, five years plus, you know, five years plus from DC You'd imagine that, you know, I'd say you'd say, Hey, you know, I, I wanna keep these projects. I don't, I don't wanna, you know, just completely can them. They've been the most successful thing we've done here. So it makes sense that they would, they would kind of, uh, you know, come into the new world.
Speaker 1 00:12:07 I do think that it's really exciting that they got Jeremy Carver back, who was the creator of the Doba Patrol TV series to kind of show that maybe that this, this show, even though it is like the more, uh, government official Viola Davis character, um, Waller is gonna be kind of this sy show or have that energy and Yes. I, I think it's interesting too that peacemaker is gonna be maybe a cornerstone of the whole D C U U going forth. But as described in the, the, the announcement today, the Creature Commandos and Waller are kind of like the, the prologue to like, when it actually begins. Because the d c U chapter one is really gonna start with Superman legacy, which is releasing July 11th, 2025, which is not that far when you think about it. We're only about two, two years and a couple months away. Yeah. From a brand new Superman film.
Speaker 2 00:13:03 I mean, do you think that
Speaker 1 00:13:03 Was the right call to start with?
Speaker 2 00:13:05 Yeah, I mean, Superman, that's where you kinda, that's where you gotta start, you know, I mean, I couldn't, I can't really think of any anywhere else that you're gonna start. Superman's gonna be the leading guy in this new world. I think that's how it has to be with, you know, DC in general. And, uh, I would assume we probably get a casting sometime this year. Um, yeah, I think it was the right move to start with Superman. I think that's the smart thing to do. Jim's gonna definitely like you put in some, some more obscure projects. But starting with kind of the main DC foundation, I think that's a really smart move. Um, I'm definitely excited to see, excited to see what he does as Superman. Um, I think it'll be different than what we think.
Speaker 3 00:13:44 I'm pretty thrilled with the fact that we're starting with Superman. I mean, when you think DC Superman or Batman are the first things that come to mind mm-hmm. <affirmative> Absolutely. Yeah. Such a powerful character. He's a very big symbol. So to start with him, 'cause he is a symbol for hope, it kind of shows the hope they have in this plan, how they're starting off. And that inspires me as a, as a film goer. 'cause it's, it's telling me that they feel confident in what they're working towards, that they wanna start with that as the first project and the name alone. It's exciting. Legacy simple. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:14:21 I'm really curious. I'm definitely really curious about that. What, what that kind of entails, you know, legacy wise. What, what do we, you know, they said it's gonna be kind of half, he's like a half, uh, crypto and half human. I would just wonder kind of how, or how they're gonna go about this, how legacy kind of entail or is entailed in the movie.
Speaker 3 00:14:39 All I ask is that we don't get another retelling of Krypton being destroyed. I was actually watching a little video that details on Superman and it's from the 1940 Flesher film. So if you remember like the old timey animation, it's that, and they made it like 45 seconds and it was effective. Got to the point and then got you to Superman. I'd appreciate it if they did that. I understand. They're probably gonna have to tell it again 'cause you're starting over. Or what I'd prefer is that they go the Spider-Man m c u route and just kind of Yes. Offhand mention it. I think
Speaker 2 00:15:14 That's what they're gonna do. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think he said that, I think, I can't remember exactly where it was. I think obviously it was before the Slate was announced, but he kind of said that, I'd imagine it's gonna start similar to how the Batman was kind of like in the, in the early years learning, you are Superman, so you don't have to go through that kind of, you know, dreadful origin Again, origin movies is just kind of, I think we've, everybody's seen the origins too many times. And I think he's gonna start kind of the similar to how the Batman does where he is gonna in his first couple years. But he's not completely Superman yet. Like, he's still learning how to be Superman. I think maybe that kind of has to do with legacy, just understanding who he is as a Kryptonian and a human. I think that probably play into that. I think,
Speaker 1 00:15:59 I think there's definitely a place where the story of Krypton destruction's gonna be played out, but it's not this film. And I'll get to that when we get to it. 'cause I think everybody knows where I'm going with that. Um, so, you know, Superman, great way to start the, the D C U off. I'm more than excited. I've always been a Superman, uh, gentleman, you will never see my Superman belt buckle that's larger than any belt buckle I've ever owned in my life, because that's how much I love Superman <laugh>. And so I'm glad to see that this is kind of kicking it off. But then following that, we go into lanterns and it's not called Green Lantern, it's called lanterns, which is like, to me is
Speaker 3 00:16:37 Plural. Plural. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:39 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:39 It's like arrow. It's like the word green. Right? Like, they just don't wanna use the word green. They're like, you know what, it's just land tights. Right.
Speaker 1 00:16:47 <laugh>. And this, this series, not only is it indicate that the, the Greg Berlanti one is scrapped, which was huge. 'cause that was, there was a lot of energy being put into that show. This one's being described as space cops with like power rings, you know? Um, it's, it's, they
Speaker 2 00:17:04 Said true detective. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:17:06 Yes. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I don't know. I don't know. That just seems like a interesting take on the lanterns and I'm really excited to see that.
Speaker 2 00:17:13 The most interesting, most interesting thing that they said was that it, it kind of, it's about, you know, John and Hal and discovering, um, the, you know, there, there's a mystery in the series and, and how it ties into the overarching story of chapter one. And I think that's really interesting. I think Greenland, I think the Lantern series is gonna be pivotal to the whole kind of chapter one. I think I'm, I'm really excited about that. 'cause we just really don't have any Green lantern material in Love action. You know? I mean, I don't really think anybody thinks
Speaker 3 00:17:43 There is no <laugh>. I was gonna say yes, there is no Green Green Lantern movie. That is correct.
Speaker 2 00:17:49 Yeah. That, that just doesn't exist. So I think it'll be refreshing for people. I I think there's a lot of refreshing things coming and I think that's, that's what a lot of people have to look forward to.
Speaker 3 00:17:59 I'm excited. It, it is funny you mentioned that. 'cause out of all of them, I want to say this one was probably am my top three most excited about, because one, it's gonna be an H B O show. So they're gonna have a nice little tint pole, a big release to come out on the platform. And, uh, I can only imagine what the discourse is gonna be like when those, you know, episodes come mm-hmm. <affirmative> start coming out weekly. We had so much more peacemaker. Think about it. So imagine the, like, the depth of this one coming out. And, and probably, you know, whenever we get that final episode, we're gonna get that little teaser or whatever that leads into the big thing. Um, God imagine if it was like Justice League Dark or something that would just, well, anyways, um, but I, I, I wanna say I'm, I'm most excited about lanterns. There's just so much potential with it and, and bringing two, not just getting one, but we're getting two lancers right from the get go, working alongside each other. And ev him mentioning True Detective, like that's
Speaker 2 00:18:54 Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:18:55 That's a great, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:57 I think there's such a thirst for having both he and John, that it just, you know, people want ha some people want Hal, some people want John. I think it just makes sense to put both them together from the get go. You know, I think that's just really the smartest move. And I think that that was really exciting is that, you know, we're, we're kind of getting everything right off the bat, which is nice.
Speaker 1 00:19:18 I will think, say too, that I, I've noticed as we go on that the shows that they decided to pull for television are kind of like the, like the, like they are the big kind of stories like Game of Thrones, where they feel very epic and like people are gonna talk about them. Uh, Anthony, like you said, like people are gonna want to know they're, everybody's gonna be talking about it around the, the water cooler at work. Like these are gonna be huge shows. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:19:46 Yeah, definitely. The, I think the, you know, you know, obviously we, we will get to other shows, but I think this lantern show is gonna be, it's gonna be big. I think it's gonna be expensive. That's gonna
Speaker 3 00:19:56 Be the biggest sleeper out of this whole slate I, I'm calling now.
Speaker 2 00:19:59 I think so
Speaker 3 00:19:59 Too. That's that's an easy sleeper.
Speaker 2 00:20:01 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:02 In it right now. People in it. Anthony's calling it,
Speaker 3 00:20:06 Today is January 31st, 2023. So you have it dated
Speaker 1 00:20:12 And then perhaps the ne the next one is the one that Anthony, I think you described it that most people had to look this one up. Was the authority a movie based on superheroes that probably none of us have ever heard of before?
Speaker 3 00:20:27 I don't know a single person on that roster. I looked them up and I'm just like, I have no idea. I'm not even,
Speaker 2 00:20:32 I have no idea. Pretend
Speaker 3 00:20:32 To say I knew who they were.
Speaker 2 00:20:34 So a lot of research will have to be done. I think Vin mentioned something today that he had a comic book from, what, 10 years? Something like that. 10 years ago. He's <laugh> He said he didn't even read it. So it's like, you know, like, just digging up the, I think that's really gun specialties. Digging up these obscure characters, bringing life to them and making them relevant. You know, making them kind of, you know, a-listers. I think I have confidence that he'll be able to do that.
Speaker 3 00:20:57 Have y'all seen the roster of who's on it?
Speaker 1 00:21:02 I haven't. I saw the picture. There was a picture in the video that was released and the one girl I was like, is that, is that Haw girl? Like, is but it wasn't <laugh>, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 00:21:14 Yeah. To be honest, I really don't know. I'm gonna have to do some research on that. I'm not gonna pretend that I know anything.
Speaker 1 00:21:21 Did you know any of them, Anthony?
Speaker 3 00:21:24 The, no, not a single one. But what's cool is that that's a very unique roster that they have going on right there. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So absolutely. The names, the names of the, of the characters alone are interesting. You got Jenny Sparks, Apollo, the engineer, the Doctor, swift Midnighter and Jack Hawks more like, those are very wild names.
Speaker 2 00:21:45 That's a whole team. You know, you could argue, I think there could be, may be an argument that Guns said that it's gonna be, uh, this team kind of takes matters into their own hands and they have a kind of jaded view or kind of, they have a different view than like the average superhero. So I could see it kind of being like, this is how the Justice League gets assembled. You kind of see Justice League versus the Authority and, and you kind of get like a, you know, the yin and Yang Justice League kind of fighting each other. Sure. I think I could see that.
Speaker 1 00:22:16 What's interesting is like, it almost reminded me of like, like the Garden to the Galaxy or like the eternals where it's like so left field from what anyone was expecting. But that's exactly what it gave us. Also, something that wasn't expected for me was the fact that the world of the mascara of Wonder Woman is getting a TV show in Paradise Lost, which shocked me quite a bit. And I think that people were initially shocked because they expected that if we're rebooting everything, wonder Woman's gonna have a film. But I think this might be the right choice. What do you guys think?
Speaker 3 00:22:49 I'm first off 50 50 just by the name Paradise Lost. It made me think of that poem was the first thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I know that's not where the name inspiration came for the show came from the comic, which was probably inspired by the poem. But the fact that it's a prequel that we're gonna spend the time at Themi and, and just kind of from, from what it seems, it's um, it's kind of like a political one, like similar to Game of Thrones that it's, there's all these different moving parts against each other trying to deal with the fallout from something. You know, obviously they didn't tell us anything, but just alone from the get go of what they're doing. And that, the fact that it's a TV show, so that gives us time to really build up a lot. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So yeah, this one feels like it's gonna end up introducing Wonder Woman and then incorporating her into the grander universe. But it'll be a nice buildup.
Speaker 1 00:23:41 Oh yeah,
Speaker 2 00:23:41 Absolutely. I think it's probably gonna build out the supporting kind of characters or, or you know, like it's gonna set the stage for Wonder Woman in the way that Gunn wants to tell Wonder Woman. It's gonna probably be, you know, God, you know, a lot of Gods. So, I mean, we've seen Themi Thema Thera before, um, how they kind of interpret it, how Gunn interprets it is interesting to me. I think it's, I'm, I'm definitely interested about the show and he, you know, I love Game of Thrones, so, you know, he kind of, kind of described it as Game of Thrones. So I'm interested to see that. I'm, I'm interested in where, where, where he could take this show and, and um, how it kind of sets the stage for Wonder Woman, because that's really what this show is about. Sets the stage for what, you know, kind of the early, early stories that they're gonna tell with Wonder Woman. I think.
Speaker 1 00:24:23 And what's interesting about the show for me too, is that it does, it pulls like double duty because I think that the show could spin out to multiple seasons. 'cause you could tell so many cool stories set back in, in like, you know, in ancient Greece and stuff like that. But also it's giving time for them to decide if they want Gail Gadot to come back. Like it's buying them time that you're getting this little touch of this world and then you get to see it and then they get to decide. There's a lot of moving parts behind the scenes that I think will play out over the next couple of years, and this buys them that time.
Speaker 2 00:24:56 Yeah, I mean, I, I definitely think it'd be really weird if Gal Gadot came back. I, I'll just, I mean, I'll be honest, if you're gonna reboot Batman and and Superman, you're gonna do The Trinity. I mean, look, I, I like Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. I think the first Wonder Woman movie was great. But, um, I think if they're going for a kind of clean, clean slate, I think, uh, in my opinion, I think it recast would be the best, uh, best decision. But you never know. I mean, I think Gun definitely left it up in the air right now. We really don't know kind of at the moment. So we'll see. But, um, it would definitely be, it would be interesting if, if Gal Gadot was kind of the only returning member from the D C E U.
Speaker 3 00:25:35 Brian, you made an interesting mention that I didn't think about. And, and I don't think you inad firmly meant to do it. It just kind of came out. I didn't think about the fact that this doesn't have to be set in just one time period. That we could actually explore centuries because, you know, they're Yeah. Immortal or whatever. And so we could be seeing many time periods across this TV show that, that's exciting.
Speaker 1 00:25:58 I think it'd be really cool. And this is my call, so pin this one. No, but is that, I think that one of the seasons is gonna end with the Birth of Wonder Woman.
Speaker 3 00:26:08 Oh
Speaker 2 00:26:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that's, yeah, I would, I would assume so. Yeah, that's pretty much a given at this point. I would say. It feels
Speaker 3 00:26:14 Like they're using that show to like, buy time until they, like you guys were saying, to decide if they're gonna keep her or not. And that gives them plenty of momentum before it has to be, you know, the decision made.
Speaker 2 00:26:26 Well, the thing is, is do you have to bring back Connie Nielsen? You know, like, do you have to bring back these characters to tell that same story? Or do you, you know, how do you, how do they go about it? But, um, I wouldn't be surprised if Season one ends with the Birth of Wonder Woman because even if they, even if she's born doesn't necessarily mean she has to be inter integral in the story right away. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, she could be a baby for a while and they could continues telling a story in season two. So, but I think, I think they do want to kind of introduce her eventually.
Speaker 1 00:26:55 And then we're phasing into the new Bruce Wayne with Brave and the Bold, which is going to feature both Batman and Robin, but not the Robin that I was expecting. We're getting Damien Wayne, which feels like we're skipping a whole many steps in a brand new world. I think it's a, it's a odd choice, honestly, but I think that, um, that was definitely influenced by Guns, love of Damien. And so I don't know what else to say about that. <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:27:25 I think that's the one that's probably the most controversial 'cause people are trying to figure out, like they're trying to date an age Batman and see how far along he is in his career and everything. I don't have too many thoughts on that one. I under, from what I understand, the Grant Morrison run is kind of acclaimed. So to have good source material, I'm never against that. You know, a lot of the things I enjoy reading and watching based off of good runs. So if this is as acclaimed as it is, I I welcome it.
Speaker 2 00:27:54 Yeah, I think I, I, I would probably agree too that, I mean, you know, there's been a lot of Batman, uh, over the past, you know, 20 years. I think that's the character we're almost used to. We're we're, we're all used to now. So I think this is a good dis I think they're going in the right direction with this. I think we've seen a lot of Solo Batman too. I mean, you know, I think it's time to start introducing the Bat Family. You know, like I think Gun said that it's not just gonna be, uh, it's not just gonna be Damien Wayne. You're gonna see some other extended family members or the Bat Family. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, um, I think that'll, it'll, it'll be good. I, I, I think, uh, we'll get an older Batman. Uh, obviously we're gonna get a recast, so we'll get what this is our what, fourth now Batman and
Speaker 1 00:28:36 Too many. Too many.
Speaker 2 00:28:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm definitely interested to see where this goes though. Um, like I've said about all the other projects, I think it's gonna be fresh, it's gonna be refreshing, it's gonna be different than what we've seen.
Speaker 1 00:28:49 And I think that it is going, I think part of the motivation to have such a different Bruce Wayne, is that they're trying to differentiate it from Pattinson's, Batman, Matt Reeves, Batman Sequel, because they're both gonna be coming out in the same timeframe, you know, in the same couple of years, that they really want people to know that this is different. So to have another young Batman that you just had a movie of, it's gonna be a little odd, you know, um, this is followed up by Booster Gold, which is gonna be an H B O Max series. Um, and I love Booster Gold, but with Booster Gold usually goes blue beetle. And as we know, we're gonna have Blue Beetle, a different kind of blue beetle, um, coming out years before this. So it's an what do you, what are you, what are you thinking about this booster? Gold could be a, a really funny show, but I think that it also might be missing something if he doesn't have the Buddy Coness of, of Blue Beetle.
Speaker 2 00:29:43 I would imagine that the, uh, it, it'll probably lead to the Buddy Cop kind of thing. Um, it
Speaker 1 00:29:49 Better
Speaker 2 00:29:50 <laugh>. Yeah, <laugh>. I mean, I definitely, I think it will. I, I don't know, you know, is Booster Gold sustainable beyond a season that's just booster gold? That's to be seen. But I think a lot of people have a lot of hunger for a Booster Gold movie or a series. So I saw a lot of people talking about that, and a lot of people were really kind of excited about that. And, um, you know, I really, to be honest, I really don't know a ton about Booster or Booster Booster Gold. Um, so I'll definitely have to do some catching up on him. But, uh, I've definitely seen a lot of people really kind of excited about this. So I'm interested to, uh, I'm interested to see where it goes. I'm interested to see who they cast.
Speaker 3 00:30:22 I'm excited about it. 'cause it, he's such a silly character in like a fun way, you know? Oh yeah. So it, the, the one thing that really excited me about the Slate, and this is kinda like a general blanket statement over everything, it's just the variety of it. You have like the hopefulness of Superman, the unusual father son story of Batman, the prequel story of Wonder Woman. And you have the, you know, the gritty craziness with Waller and whatever she's up to. But then at the same time, you're also getting this probably hilarious story with Booster Gold coming back from the future with whatever. He's got a disgrace football store, just because he wants to be a hero and, and be relevant. Sure. And, and I like that. 'cause like, you can tell he's gonna be like a jock type and that makes it kind of fun. Not, you know, I love Shazam, but like the nerdiness of it sometimes can be a bit much. But then you have this guy who's like, you know, he, he wants to stay in the, in the limelight. And so he does a very weird way of, of keeping himself relevant by going in the past and trying to be a hero.
Speaker 1 00:31:33 It's very, it's a, it's a very funny character. And in fact, one of the last seasons of, uh, legends of Tomorrow, uh, Donald Faison Faison was playing the role of Booster Gold.
Speaker 3 00:31:45 No way. He never,
Speaker 1 00:31:46 Yeah. He didn't actually get to be Booster Gold 'cause the show got canceled before it happened. But he was that finally the character that was going back to get the attention. Um, and I did like, you know, what you said there, Anthony as well, is that like every project is very different. And I think that part of that really became apparent to me when they announced Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, which is,
Speaker 3 00:32:06 That's exactly what I was thinking. Yes. Yes. Thank you. You could read My Mind.
Speaker 1 00:32:10 This is a sci-fi show about, uh, about her getting stuck on Krypton and being like raised on this, this last little bit of Krypton. And she's a little more jaded than, than Superman is. So he's gonna be hopeful. She's gonna be jaded. This is gonna be a little more sci-fi. We're gonna get a little more of that space ness that we're not, maybe not even seeing lanterns. 'cause Lantern was sounded a very terrestrial as, as they said, every project is so different. And I think Supergirl's gonna be one of the, the sleeper hits of this, this slate.
Speaker 2 00:32:39 That's
Speaker 3 00:32:40 The super movie for me.
Speaker 2 00:32:41 Yeah, I'm definitely really excited for, uh, Supergirl. I mean, you know, um, they're doing, you know, we don't know if they're doing a recast with Supergirl, that's another one that's up in the air right now. But, um, I, I think it's really interesting. Uh, they're gonna spend time with Clark on Earth and, and, uh, super Girl, you know, on Krypton. Um, I think eventually how that kind of collides is gonna be really interesting. So I'm definitely, I'm definitely really interested, definitely really interested in the Super Girl movie.
Speaker 3 00:33:13 Um, so earlier on I was saying that I was really excited about some titles. This is the one that I don't know for some reason just really grabbed me. Maybe it's the title Woman of Tomorrow, giving it a little bit of proximity of it, maybe being in the future or having a little bit of time traveling elements or something. Nothing concrete, but this already just sounds so much fun because rather than being this happy go lucky, everything's going great. It's like she's been through stuff, so it's gonna be like a character that'll be a lot richer rather than, and I never really watched the show, but the Supergirl Show seem like it's a little bit more happy, cheery.
Speaker 2 00:33:48 It definitely is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:33:50 Yeah. I've seen like clips, but I've never
Speaker 2 00:33:52 Watch. I've touch too. I never watched like any kinda, I, I never, I don't even think I've seen an episode, but it definitely seems kind of more like happy-go-lucky than I think this will be like a much darker take on it. Uh,
Speaker 3 00:34:03 Yeah. And, and not so much darker, but a little bit more, what's the word? Um, humanistic, like, yes, there's actual feelings and emotions rather than, oh, I'm here, I'm gonna make things great. Like, she's going through stuff and you're gonna see her. Yeah. Have to like, process those emotions as she's going through an extremely catastrophic loss. She loses everything, all her family. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> her, like her world. That's,
Speaker 2 00:34:31 Yeah. Gun kind of does that really well. I think he, he plays into emotion really well. And I think that kind of, that kind of story fits really well. I mean, and he kind of said that, uh, Tom King has been working with him on writing all these projects. So I would assume that this is a straight adaption from Tom King. So I would assume Tom King will have a, have a hand in making this movie too. So I at least it'll be kind of faithful to the adaption. So I'm definitely excited for it. You know what,
Speaker 1 00:34:58 What I think is interesting is that when people got really, like, upset that Clark killed Zad at the end of Manna Steel, this is the super girl that I think would be willing to do that because she, having lost everything and being stuck in a world that is like desolate makes you desperate. And they said that they, they even referred to her in the videos as being much more hardcore. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Super Girl, I've watched all the seasons of the show. She was very lighthearted. And this one I think is going to push it. I think it might even develop it to power grow, which would be really cool, um, as we go along.
Speaker 3 00:35:31 Ooh, that's a nice prediction there, Brian.
Speaker 2 00:35:33 So, like, I, yeah, I mean, I think it's mainly to, to create a contrast between Clark and, you know, Supergirl and, um, once those characters come together, if they were the same character, same kind of happy-go-lucky spirit, I think that would, there, that wouldn't be as interesting as kind of, uh, you know, Clark is gonna see somebody who's in the same position as him having the same kind of powers, but, uh, a much different personality and much different, you know, she's been through a traumatic experience that maybe he hasn't experienced to that extent. So it's gonna create a nice contrast between the two.
Speaker 3 00:36:06 Yeah. It seems dark. Which could kind of segue us into the last title, Brian. I was gonna
Speaker 1 00:36:11 Say, speaking of Dark Swamp Thing is coming at to close out the so far chapter that we know, and it's being called The Horror Film, which I think it's interesting that we're starting with a monster show and what, as of right now, we know we're ending with a Monster movie. I think that's a really cool way to kind of like, bring it full circle for what they've already announced. Um, I have not watched The Swamp Thing film. I don't really know. I mean, not the film, the, the TV show that came out a few years ago. Uh, I don't know much about the character other than that. I think this was a bold choice and I'm actually really excited to see this one
Speaker 2 00:36:50 Bold for sure. Which I like. Uh, I mean, uh, like Booster Gold, there's a big kind of, uh, fandom for Swamp Thing. I think it's gonna do really well. I think it's gonna be right up People's alley. Um, how much, how much, uh, input Gunn has on this. I'm, I'm assuming that on all these projects that he announced, he has a pretty fair amount of input, whether he's gonna write all of them, probably not. Um, he'll have a fair amount of input though. But, um, making a DC horror movie that's, that's gonna be interesting. Uh, I mean, I'm trying to think. Has has one, has there been a DC horror movie recently that I can really think of? I mean,
Speaker 1 00:37:29 Other than Badman versus Superman, Donald Justice? 'cause it was just that bad <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:37:35 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:37:35 Took my joke,
Speaker 1 00:37:37 Took
Speaker 2 00:37:37 My joke. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:37:38 Ah,
Speaker 1 00:37:40 But honestly, no, there hasn't been one.
Speaker 2 00:37:43 I think it's, it's fresh. I mean, the word I've, I've said a million times, it's refreshing, uh, to hear all these things. I think it feels very, it feels, uh, very gun like, but it's good. I'm definitely excited for it.
Speaker 3 00:37:56 So the thing they mentioned about it is that it's gonna investigate the dark origins of Swamp Thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So sadly, we're gonna have to do a little bit origin story, but that's okay because, but
Speaker 2 00:38:07 I think that's necessary. We haven't told
Speaker 3 00:38:08 The story seven, eight times. Like, we have a Batman, we know that Thomas and Martha gets shot and killed, and they take the Pearl. It's like, come on now. How many times have I seen that?
Speaker 1 00:38:16 Hey, what,
Speaker 3 00:38:18 What is this news to you,
Speaker 2 00:38:19 Brian? Yeah, I never heard that.
Speaker 3 00:38:21 But, um, gun also said that he still is gonna interact with other characters. So like, man, how is that gonna play out when you have such a, you know, little bit of switch up there like this, this is completely out there compared to the rest. Like, I'm still thinking about how we're gonna incorporate werewolf by night in Marvel, and this is gonna be a similar
Speaker 2 00:38:43 Situation. That was kind of my first thought. Yeah. It was my, my very first thought when I heard Swamp Thing was I was not surprised, but I'm thinking, I'm like, how are they gonna tie this into anything else? How are they gonna bring this character into any other kind of material? And I think it's mainly gonna be that they're gonna keep the God, they're gonna keep the gods together and they're gonna keep the monsters together, and maybe for the final event, they'll bring everybody together. And I think it'll just be something that's never been done before. And I
Speaker 3 00:39:07 Disagree because the chapter name is Gods and Monsters. I think they're gonna try to blend them, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 00:39:16 Yeah. I think they have a lot of establishing to do mm-hmm. <affirmative> this Gods and Monsters chapter is not, uh, nothing we've seen before. So they have a lot of establishing to do. They have a lot of groundwork to do, uh, setting the tone for what they're doing in this first chapter. I think towards the end of the chapter, they can kind of bring everything in, you know, bring everything together and then, and then it'll feel more natural. I think you don't want to kind of jump too far off the deep end right away. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I think although we're trying to avoid origin, I think, um, they gotta lay a little bit of groundwork first. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:39:46 <affirmative>, you know, there was one more film that was announced on this slate, and it's actually got a new kind of subheader. We're, we're going to the else worlds, you know, which is a really big, um, like motif with DC Comics, is that else? Worlds is just stories that are told in different worlds. And that's how we easily fit in Batman, Matt Reese's Batman Universe, which the sequel Batman two, um, Batman part two is coming on October 3rd, 2025. So in the same year we're getting Superman, we're getting a sequel to the Batman, and I'm so glad they're continuing this one. Um, I was not excited to see the, the film. I saw it at first, I felt it was a little bit long, but once I watched it a second time, I was like, man, this film is good. Baton Reeves knows what he's doing. It's good. I'm glad they're giving him a second part
Speaker 2 00:40:36 And a third part, most likely not official, but, but I mean, he, they kind of did say what it, you know, like this kind of saga. Mm-hmm. So you'd assume there's gonna be more, but yeah, I mean, man, that was a good movie. It's just hard to, uh, hard to make a ranking for it. I, I don't really know how to rank the Batman movies because I have such an atta attachment to, um, the Dark Knight as a kid. You know, you, you grow up, you know, like as a teenager, everybody grew up on the dark night and it's just like, that's just one of those films that you, it's hard to beep, but it's like, you feel like sometimes in, in some ways, the Batman maybe was a little bit better. Uh, in some ways it wasn't. But I mean, I totally trust Matt Res. I think he, what he's building out there is what every Batman fan really wants at the moment. Besides the one, you know, who want the bat that wants the Bat family, I'm sure we'll get some of that, the Reeves universe. But I think right now they've built out this kind of underground crime, you know, crime world that every Batman fan is just kind of like, you know, gawing over
Speaker 3 00:41:32 Brian. I got scared for a second that we'd have to stop being best friends. But then you redeemed yourself there in the end.
Speaker 1 00:41:38 Oh, is this about peacemaker all over again?
Speaker 3 00:41:41 No, no. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I was like, I am not taking the Batman slander on the podcast today. Not happening. Um, I would
Speaker 1 00:41:49 Never do that to you.
Speaker 3 00:41:50 I know. That's why we're friends. Anyone who knows me knows how much I love the Batman. Um, I'm glad that they announced it formally. We knew it was coming, but I'm just glad to hear that confirmation. But what excites me is we're getting a Batman movie in October, like, that's gonna be so much fun. It's that time of the year. And, and after they did the last one set during Halloween, but released in March, it like, okay. But it's just like, I'm so thrilled that we're doing an October release. Like, I can only imagine the merchandise that'll come out for it. It'll be great.
Speaker 2 00:42:24 You gotta wonder if they're gonna stick with the kind of Halloween theme, right? Like, <laugh>, you don't wanna get too redundant, but it's like, you know, perfect timing. So I'm really interested to see what they're cooking up. I dunno, you know, villains, there's a lot of theories on who's gonna be the villain, um, have my thoughts, but at the moment I really, I really don't know.
Speaker 1 00:42:43 But in an article, man. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:42:46 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:42:49 So perhaps maybe one of the biggest shockers for me, besides the DC slate is that when James Gum was talking about what's coming for, from DC he mentioned Shazam being in its own corner of the world, which leads into The Flash, which leads into Aquaman. And it seemed like they're all following, leading into the DC Universe. 'cause he said, and Aquaman leads into what we have coming up. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that is
Speaker 2 00:43:17 Yeah. Huge about that. You gotta wonder, you gotta wonder if, is he playing with us a little bit, you know, uh, see Fon at all, all, um, I mean, saffron came out and pretty much said that they always planned for the Aquaman movies to be a trilogy. So whether they live up to that word, we'll see. But, um, yeah, I mean, James Gun really kind of seemed to be raving over the flash, and I think that kind of the, the movie, how good the movie has kind of inspired him, uh, to make that movie. Kind of the stepping off point for the D C U, like the starting point kind of, um, resetting the Universe and, uh, we'll see how much, uh, how much they, uh, rearranged the end of that film to kind of fit with that vision. I'm sure they've done a little bit of work on that film, so I'm, I'm very interested to see that film in May. But, um, yeah, it's such a controversial topic right now. It's like, are they gonna keep everybody? Is everybody gone? Who knows? You know, gun was like, yeah, we're open to it, but, you know, who knows at this point. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Speaker 3 00:44:18 I have so many unorganized thoughts in regards to that <laugh>, and it's like, I know Brian's gonna say, we'll put 'em in an article, but no, they're just so fleeting and away from each other that I just, I don't even know where to begin. I was, I wouldn't say I was surprised, but I was, it left an impression on me when James said, the Flash is a fantastic movie. That means he is gotten a good look at it, like a great one. And we know that it's what supposed to come out June, I don't know. Mm-hmm. I know it comes out this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:44:48 Yeah. Something like that. And he, he even said that he's talking to Machete, uh, mu Musi. Yeah. I, that's how you pronounce the last name, uh, about a new, you know, another D c U film. Um, so that means that, you know, there's a lot of rapport with the Flash right now. Uh, yeah. They, they must really like this film.
Speaker 3 00:45:07 So I was quite like, okay, he feels James is pretty honest, you know, like as far as how he feels about things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, maybe he might lie about things like Wil Polzer being Adam Morlock, wink, wink, wink,
Speaker 1 00:45:23 <laugh>, uh,
Speaker 3 00:45:24 <laugh>, if you know, you know. Um, but, but when it comes to that, you know, I, he felt, I watched the video twice. He felt very earnest. Like I know he was doing what would be equivalent to pr, but there's truth. I mean, this is now his role, his job, his company. So for him to speak so strongly on these projects that have yet to release actually instills confidence in me.
Speaker 1 00:45:51 Sure. And I think that even in the, you know, as some of the information was coming out after on Twitter, there was talks that he is open to having, you know, Gail Gadot and Jason Momoa, and even Ezra Miller returned to these roles. The doors are open. It just depends on where things go. I think that he's just showing that it's very much gonna be like a soft reboot, hard reboot, depending on what he wants to pick and choose. Um, but I think that it's interesting that starting from kind of Shazam, we have this new universe that's kind of developing now. I know we, which she even
Speaker 3 00:46:28 Said, sorry,
Speaker 2 00:46:29 I think they said that Shazam was not a part of the current D C U. That's before the, but that's before the reset. So I think Shazam kind of exists outside of the reset, and then the end of the Flash resets, and then you get Blue Beetle and Aquaman two that are in the Reset universe, which confused me. 'cause then he's like, then where it officially starts is Superman, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I think everybody's a little confused today, but, uh, we're just gonna have to wait a little more. We got a lot of news today. I think a lot of people have a lot of reasons to be happy, but we're gonna have to wait for a clearer picture on a couple of things.
Speaker 1 00:47:05 Sure. Absolutely. You know, we are starting to run outta time, but before we go, we have a few questions from our followers on our new, uh, Twitter, the Cosmic Circus podcast. And so the first one is from someone called Miss Lizzie Hill. I don't think we ever heard of her, but hey there, miss Lizzie Hill. Thanks for listening in. Uh, what is something that wasn't on the news site that disappointed you? I, I, oh, this is a tough one for me because I think that I wanted to see something with, uh, the Marshal Manhunter. I think that's where my heart was kind of lying. I wanted to see maybe a project he could show up still somewhere, but I feel like he's been such a underutilized character that would've been really great to see him and even Magan show up, do do something with the two of them that would've led to something. Um, some kind of project TV show or a movie. So, that's my one disappointment.
Speaker 2 00:48:03 You know, I'm pretty, I'm pretty happy with the news that we got today. I don't know, I, you know, I, I thought a little bit, a lot, a little bit about Green Arrow, but I love the Arrow TV show so much that I almost don't wanna see a new version of Arrow because it's just like, I don't want it to change my opinion on the character. Um, I think Hawk Girl, I, I would be really interested in like a Hawk Girl, kind of like tv. I think I just feel like she would fit really well with the Justice League as well in this new kind of world that they're building. You know, it's not to say that she's not gonna be a part of the team, but I think, um, that would've been really interesting to start off with, um, a, a woman outside of, you know, just Wonder Woman
Speaker 3 00:48:43 On my end. I would say Black Canary.
Speaker 1 00:48:47 Oh yes. We didn't get any notice about that.
Speaker 3 00:48:50 That was what I was gonna say next. I'm like, we have no update or status on what's going on with that. So I was a little disappointed.
Speaker 2 00:48:57 Yeah. You probably have to assume that one's not, not gonna happen. I mean, probably not, never know,
Speaker 3 00:49:01 But I thought the casting was so good and I enjoyed her and Birds of Prey, so I was like, figure it out. You know? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:49:08 <affirmative>, I still could, but, you know, nothing at the moment. I, I, you know, like, I think, uh, there were some articles that's kind of said that Jam Gun didn't wanna give away too much about his plans. And there's some films, there's some big films that are, uh, that he couldn't say 'cause it would give away, um, give away too many spoilers. Yeah. So
Speaker 3 00:49:26 The other thing I was the other thing. I was disappointed that we didn't really get any info on Blue Beetle. I just wanna know a little bit more, I know he mentioned it kind of offhand, but like, where are we going with this?
Speaker 2 00:49:38 I think it's gonna be in the dcu. I don't, I, I don't know if that's a hundred percent, but from the way he kind of talked about it, um,
Speaker 3 00:49:44 Everything post flash kind of could be incorporated.
Speaker 2 00:49:47 Yeah. And there's no reason for them not to. There's not you. I mean, like, I don't think the, there's any kind of tie to the D CEU from Blue Beetle. There doesn't seem like there's any reason why they couldn't, um, put him into the dc especially if, you know, show Low Marna does does good work and that film performs really well. I don't really see any reason why they couldn't, not a problematic guy. There's no kind of no issues there. So, which is,
Speaker 3 00:50:13 So we can bring up the next question from Uday.
Speaker 1 00:50:17 Yes. So Uday actually gave us two questions, but the first one is if actors like Jason Mao are staying, should the Supergirl movie star, Sasha, Kelly,
Speaker 3 00:50:26 Kanye,
Speaker 1 00:50:27 Sorry. Thank you. It's all good. Um, I think that absolutely if they had a good performance, if they've done well, um, I think that they should stay. Honestly, though I'm not, I've never been thrilled with Jason Mamo as Aquaman, so I would take, I could take him, relief him. Um, but absolutely I, let's keep, let's keep Supergirl.
Speaker 2 00:50:47 Yeah. Uh, I'm definitely on board with, uh, Sasha Ka, uh, Supergirl. She looks awesome. Um, at the moment it kind of seems like it's trending towards, she's not gonna be, uh, the new D C U, which stinks. But, um, I'm excited to see the work she does in the Flash. And I think she, she has a cool personality. I, I think she kind of radiates like a good vibe and, uh, I hope, and, and from what, you know, what's kind of out there in the public is, uh, she's kind of the star of the film, kind of in the flash, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Maybe, uh, maybe that'll change James Gun's mind, but for now, who knows?
Speaker 3 00:51:23 My ten second thought is make Jason Mamo a Lobo.
Speaker 1 00:51:27 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 3 00:51:27 Yes. Just go ahead and do it and then keep her. There you go. There you go. Okay. Those are my thoughts. Um,
Speaker 1 00:51:33 And one final question is, uh, Uday says, how do you feel about Gun only doing another soft reboot? Who do you want to stick around? I'm okay with a soft reboot as long as it works well. I think that The Flash, which is pretty much adapting Flashpoint gives it a pretty good jumping off point to do so. Um, and I would love for, um, oh my God, Margo Robbie to stay as Harley Quinn because she has always been a very good casting for that. And kind of Anthony, what you said earlier, uh, black Canary, it's a great casting. I wanted to see her more of her bring back the whole Birds of Prey team. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 00:52:10 Uh, for me, Skay, Margo, Robbie can stay, everybody else can go. I'm out on, I'm out on Levi, I'm out on Miller. I'm out on Gadot while I love Moo. But, uh, you know, if he comes as comes in as Lobo, I'd be happy with that. But I'm, uh, I'm out on all those guys. I think it's time for some fresh faces.
Speaker 3 00:52:32 I'm on board with what you guys said. I'll keep it simple. Uh, I keep you the Harley Quinn that we No one love. I know we're getting Amanda Waller, which is fantastic casting. And, um, as far as the soft reboot, I'm just feeling hopeful about it. And it's nice to see that BC has a genuine structure in place, something to work towards, and we will see how it goes.
Speaker 1 00:52:57 And I think that's the perfect way to end it, boys. So while we're running out of time today, we'd love to continue the conversation with you listeners. So check us
[email protected], or you can find us on Twitter and other social medias at my Cosmic Circus or our new Cosmic Circus podcast, Twitter at Cosmic podcasts. Thank you again so much for tuning into the Cosmic Circle. My name is Brian Kitson and you can find me on Twitter at Kitson 3 0 1. Anthony Drew, thank you so much for joining me today. But before we go, tell the people where they can find you.
Speaker 2 00:53:27 Hey guys, I'm Drew and you can find me at, uh, at Drew Reed, 1 0 9 9 on Twitter.
Speaker 3 00:53:35 And then this is Anthony Flagg. You can find me at rodo underscore. Thanks
Speaker 1 00:53:40 Again, everyone can't wait for our next trip through the cosmos together.
Speaker 3 00:53:44 Thanks y'all.
